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[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 80 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I mean, what else can we do?

[–] heartbreaker@lemmy.world 51 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Convince Keanu Reeves to run for the next election. Seriously, he is the one.

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 89 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

next election

Some still don't understand the full extent of this

[–] jaxxed@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

You'll have more elections. It's up to you to make them still mean something.

[–] TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago

Worked for reagan, Trump, zelensky. Every politician an actor. Fuck it at this point

[–] jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I think Jon Stewart would make a great president. I also think he would probably be miserable and I would hate to do that to him.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It's probably a very unpopular opinion, but I feel like Jon Stewart is a bit overrated. He was at the height of his powers in the GWB era and he helped Kerry to a hefty loss, and then followed that up by running pointless and distracting political rallies that did nothing at all to prevent the 2010 shellacking by the tea party.

He helped provide cover for Trump this election cycle by laughing at him and at times even joking that he was gonna vote for Trump. I guarantee the daily show episodes that couch potato democrats like myself used to soothe themselves during this sleep walk into fascism will age like milk.

I couldn't even bear to watch the election night coverage him and Colbert were doing and I'm sure that it got grim as hell (similar to coverage of 2016) as the jokes started to not match the bleak reality of an upcoming second Trump term.

His lasting political advocacy efforts for things (largely outside of the media) like the 9/11 first responders and Iraqi burn pit veterans are admirable though.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 6 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

He seems like a person that would go to great lengths to avoid politics, but he can't be any worse than any of the existing options.

[–] DmMacniel 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Those who do not seek powers, are the best to wield them.

[–] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 4 points 2 weeks ago

"The desire for power should automatically exclude you from having any." Billy Connelly

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 1 points 2 weeks ago

No, he was the lead actor in a trans anarchist movie

[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Isn't there something about the president having to be American born too? Keanu was born in Lebanon and is Canadian. I think he probably has dual citizenship with the states but it sounds complicated....

Also holy smokes he is 60???

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago

I'm pretty sure you need to be US born.

[–] Nythos@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Keanu Reeves did a Netflix deal/Series with pseudoscientist and pseudoarchaeologist Graham Hancock

Milo Rossi has a series on YT going through just how bad Hancock is when it comes to pseudoarchaeology here

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[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, that's what you need, another conspiracy theorist...

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[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Let's get AOC to run. She'll be old enough next time 'round.

It's clear the "catering to moderates" strategy has been a catastrophic failure. I say we change gears and actually put up a candidate that isn't going to try and "play both sides."

AOC hasn't been afraid to criticize her party's decisions, I think she could take the platform Bernie Sanders took and actually make some progress.

Problem is, the DNC would actually need to fucking cooperate instead of falling into their same old tried and failed ways, unlike they did with Bernie both times he ran. I don't see that happening, and as always, third parties aren't really an option.

[–] ThisIsAManWhoKnowsHowToGling@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Problem is that she's a woman, and a statistically significant chunk of America is repulsed by idea of being ruled by a woman. (I'm not going to say a large portion, but big enough that it played a factor in this election)

[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

That's also true, as disgusting as it is.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm not in the US, so I won't be voting for any presidential candidates, but I've been impressed with AOC whenever I've seen her in interviews.

You're right about the infighting thing though, and it seems to be endemic to left leaning parties everywhere, whereas the right usually seem to be a much more cohesive team.

[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Not a lot to argue about when the goal is to make as much money as possible by any means necessary

[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Happens in Canada too, only we actually have multiple parties. but the left sides tend to split the vote more whereas the right manages to have less splintering and usually will back one of the major conservative parties. It sucks honestly but I'm okay with it because at least I don't feel my vote is wasted when I vote for an alternative.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 3 points 2 weeks ago

Mutual aid. Start building up a network of people who help each other out.

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 1 points 2 weeks ago

Talk to your country's politicians about offering refugee visas to Americans.

[–] superkret 55 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I think and pray it won't affect my country too much.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 51 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

no, it will hype up the wannabee trumps and other dickheads to grow more bold, be they in politics or in civillian life.

also, the impact on climate change will affect your country.

[–] Mr_Fish@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Either that or it will encourage other countries to distance themselves from America a bit, and make the world less US centric.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

yeah that's great. who's there to fill the void? Oh boy, China and Russia, what a treat /s

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 43 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

For real though, what does the rescue float in the meme represent irl?

Cuz I sure as fuck won't be praying, but I'm not really seeing any options other than watching in horror as our country burns down around us.

We can't even point to the electoral college fucking us over this time - an actual majority of voters decided they want to experience 1930s Germany live and in color.

We're not going to fix a political system when the majority of actual voters are evil to the core.

[–] Zementid@feddit.nl 7 points 2 weeks ago

Well less evil more stupid. On the other side... China will take over now.

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Drag has spent today speaking to politicians in drag's country about offering refugee visas to Americans.

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Fuck it. Sign me up.

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[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I am very much asking you to abandon the Democratic party which has failed you and seek alternatives. I have not see a thoughts and prayers sentiment I have seen a get your shit together and join organizations who will actually do something sentiment

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The Democratic Party slow rolled the justice system on Trump so they could run against him :)

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

This is what gets me the most, they had 4 years and a presidential immunity ruling and did nothing.

I’m telling you, all politicians like trump’s policies, they are the rich after all.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

join organizations who will actually do something

Until you get attacked by MAGAs and proud boys.

'DNC betrayed us' crowd have no idea what's in store. They wanted a radical change? They're getting a radical change, just in an unexpected way.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Trust me I know exactly what I am in for and you should too. I don't expect things not to get violent lmao? These are fascist we are talking about

[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I would love to, but what the hell are we gonna do? Starting a new nationwide party is practically impossible and. (Intentionally so, of course)

And as much as we can point fingers and say "the people can fix the two party system" we have seen on multiple occasions that without major election reform that simply isn't the case. Most of the country's voters are older, and as we have seen today and yesterday, most voters would rather not vote at all than vote outside their party's lines. The only reason third parties are even allowed to exist in the US is to either give the illusion of choice, or to spoil elections (as some argue happened in 2000, on top of all the other things fucked up with the 2000 election)

[–] shaserlark@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Not in the US but in another place where fascism is on the rise. The sad reality is that leftists all around the world might have to start thinking about self-defence. Go to the gym, practice martial arts. Since you’re in the US, arm yourself, learn how to shoot.

It sounds crazy but I’m not kidding, we still have time until the SA/SS Type of people actually have the power to roam the streets and establish a full blown dictatorship. Before that happens we have to learn to fight back.

In parallel, get organized. Join grassroots organizations. Try to spread the word. Talk to the people you know and tell them what you’re doing and why. It feels like we can’t do anything but we have to start somewhere.

And finally, think about an exit strategy. Once it's 1933 and the dictatorship is established and political enemies go to the concentration camps, it’s too late and you better be somewhere abroad already.

I know all of this sounds extreme, and I’m hoping for a much more boring dystopia, but this is what would prepare you for the truly Orwellian dystopia and what may help prevent it from happening.

[–] wieson 1 points 2 weeks ago

I think the strat would be too found a new party ( let's say American Worker's Party AWP) on the state and country level.

Get in the state parliaments. Later, if the party is established, get as many seats in the senate and the HoR as possible, but don't touch the presidential race until it's actually realistic.

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[–] TheBlue22@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I frankly could not give less of a shit what happens to Americans. All I care about is Ukraine.

If Trump decides to help Ukraine, somehow, okay.

If not, fuck the US and I hope europe gets its shit together enough to help them for the next 4 years

[–] gerbler@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

I care about the Americans who voted for Kamala and are attached at the hip to fascists who are taking the ship down with them. The ones who eagerly voted for Trump? Drown.

[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 4 points 2 weeks ago

If Trump decides to help Ukraine

Putin's not going to let him...

With the president, Congress, and the Supreme Court all being in Trump's cult I fear for global politics as a whole, and I'm not sure which country the US will be at war with first.

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago

The thing is, Europe is pretty small and powerless without America, not to mention the fact that our own governments are infested with fascists as well, and for some reason, Europeans tend to mimic whatever stupid shit the US does.

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