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[–] citrusface@lemmy.world 178 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Funny - it's the same for roughly 50% of Americans too - which is horrifying.

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Edit: sorry it was more than 50% of Americans. Fuck everyone. Goodbye.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 54 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

Even as someone who clashes with Lemmy.world users every post, I highly doubt Kamala doesn't have the vast majority of American support over Trump. It's that people don't vote

[–] leisesprecher 73 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That doesn't change anything, tbh.

Apparently these people are at least complacent enough to let Trump become president. And that is horrifying.

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[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 39 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

It's that people don't vote

Yes but also no: it's mostly that many people either CAN'T vote or can but only with extreme exercise of patience and stamina.

Get rid of all the ridiculous voter suppression obstacles and you'll see a dramatic uptick in voting and a corresponding shift towards Dems winning almost every election, making the GOP unviable within a decade.

Neither major party wants that, though, since the Dem leadership counts on running on fear of Republicans so that they won't have to go further left than the owner donors are comfortable with.

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[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 33 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Easy to say when you live somewhere that voting is easy.

You honestly think Jim Crow restrictions on voting ended? The Supreme Court itself struck down the Voting Rights Act, and now you can have a single polling station for a county.

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[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 31 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Plus the system is rigged to count rural (and thus usually more conservative) votes more, so sane people have to turn out in greater numbers to keep sociopaths out of the white house

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[–] puchaczyk@lemmy.blahaj.zone 108 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Watching America edging fascism is my pastime in between watching my own country edging fascism.

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[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 97 points 2 weeks ago (16 children)

Americans are watching this too and wondering what the fuck is wrong with our fellow Americans. This should not even be close.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 41 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

America is a fascist nation dripping in right wing propaganda.

If we elect Trump a second time, the only people who can express shock are the ones who have never seen a neighbor wave a Confederate flag, brandish a Blue Lives Punisher logo, have FOX News blasting away in the living room, or demand you laugh at their joke full of ethnic slurs.

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[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 79 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

As an American:

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

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[–] Frostbeard@lemmy.world 75 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

I will now cut back on all social media. Lemmy included as I get a depression from what's happening in the US. What is painfully obvious is that we Europeans must stop fucking around and federate so that we have a fucking chance wedged in between despots and idiots.

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[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 65 points 2 weeks ago (14 children)

I'm really hoping Harris wins, and we can make politics boring again. I know that if Trump wins, we'll hear about all the insanity he will put in place for the next four years.

Sure, if he loses, Trump will cry foul, but that doesn't have the same legs as it would if he wins.

I just want Trump to be some washed out TV "celebrity" and politics to be as entertaining as it always is: not very.

I'm not American and all I hear about right now is American politics. Y'all need to figure your shit out.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 63 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Trump is not the problem. Trump is the symptom. The problem is a somewhat powerful minority faction in the US actively pushing to dismantle our democracy. Project 2025 wasn't written by Trump and didn't write itself.

Harris' win is step 1. We then need to push to shore up our democracy and prevent a more cunning trump replacement.

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[–] Zementid@feddit.nl 20 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

If Trump wins, the world will become a way less hospitable place even faster. This is literally the fight for the last resources, and the 1% wants it all. Trump is a Billionaire enabler... nothing else.

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[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 63 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The worst one for me is that there's some chode near me that displays a flag on his house fucking bragging that he's voting for a convicted felon.

They're proud of the fact that they're supporting a criminal, and I bet they'd be ok with him if he was an open Nazi as well (they're just fine with the same tactics and having literal Nazi flag wavers in their midst).

[–] spicytuna62@lemmy.world 62 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (6 children)

Adam Conover's last video changed my view on the shock. They're not voting for him despite his bad qualities. They're voting for him because of his bad qualities. Telling them he's a Nazi and a felon and blah blah blah will reinforce their idea that he's the right guy. When people who worked in his government come out against him, the response is, "Of course they did. They're part of the swamp we're trying to drain."

Reason is dead. We're never going to convince these people that Trump is unfit for the job and a horrible human being. It's time to stop being so shocked these people exist. They always have and will continue to exist. All we can do is show up and end the man's political career.

Post-election update: 14 million vote spread between Biden '20 and Harris '24. Trump was only down maybe 1Β½ million votes between '20 and '24. Hey Democrats, where the fuck were you on Tuesday?

[–] Zink@programming.dev 22 points 2 weeks ago

It’s all very Dunning-Kruger. A huge part of the crazy conservative personality seems to be thinking YOU are the smart one in a sea of sheep, and that everything is a conspiracy.

So when Trump is getting convicted, looking like an idiot, and has most of the civilized world against him? SO much evidence of the conspiracy and the system trying to save itself from the great disruptor! It’s like reality itself is bending over backwards to make the chosen one look like an irredeemable pile of shit!

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[–] VantaBrandon@lemmy.world 51 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Americans are also watching in horror FYI

[–] xenoclast@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago (15 children)
[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 34 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Apparently those Mussolini style of speeches and the other 50 or so political suicides did not really matter as much as you would think. No matter the outcome this being this close I think spells the end of the USA as a rational power.

[–] xenoclast@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

America really really hates women.

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[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 49 points 2 weeks ago (16 children)

Watch the next Canadian election and be equally dumbfounded / terrified.

[–] Albbi@lemmy.ca 43 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

At least that election season won't last more than 7 weeks. Instead of this insane 2 year marathon the US has.

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 28 points 2 weeks ago

Funny, I was watching tv and had a Canadian station on. Every other commercial break was a Pierre Putinfever ad.

In Canada, Elections campaigns can last a MAXIMUM of 50 days.

Somehow, in the past few years, the laws for campaign ads changed (thanks Crtc!) and they no longer fall into the category of a campaign.

And there are newish election laws that set out a 'pre campaign period' that allows further erosion of the campaign time limit restrictions.

That period - anytime after the last election.

Wtf.

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[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 46 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

This is so. fucked. up. I'm not American (and thank fuck for that), but I'm actually feeling so ill and worried for y'all. I think it's time for me to block/unfollow any American accounts and news cause shit's about to get really fucking bleak.

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[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 45 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

With electoral reform, we could have more then two artificially limited options. We could have competition in our elections. We could be free...

[–] Shapillon@lemmy.world 39 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

But currently you aren't and the options are damage control or burning the house down...

  • A French person that was in a similar position a few monthes ago.
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[–] davel@lemmy.ml 33 points 2 weeks ago

We will never have election reform that represents the will of the people, because the capitalist class, which has run this country since its inception through bourgeois revolution, will never allow β€œtyranny of the majority” reforms. They would sooner unleash fascism upon us than allow real democracy.

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[–] Drivebyhaiku@lemmy.world 43 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

The national identity of being Canadian over the last while has been every four years wondering if the downstairs neighbors are going to decide to restart up the meth lab they keep tinkering with and bracing for the sounds of domestic violence to resume.

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[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

His IQ is currently equal to his amount of felonies

Edit: The fact that this comment has exactly 37 upvotes makes it even funnier

[–] Zink@programming.dev 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I’m just hoping this comment ages like milk as his convictions pile up with his other trials.

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[–] arc@lemm.ee 36 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

America is fucked. Ukraine is fucked. The world is fucked. The only glimmer of hope is Trump drops dead before his term is out.

[–] ziggurat@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

The issue is that the heritage foundation has put JD vanced to take over for Trump when he dies

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[–] lemmy_get_my_coat@lemmy.world 34 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Let's not forget the two impeachments too

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[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 33 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah its one thing if youre a trump supporter because then you are just a sheep but i actually dont understand whats going on in the head if those who have to think about the decision

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 29 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

"But the felon promised me cheaper eggs."

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[–] python@programming.dev 29 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Genuine question, but why is Trump even allowed to run? I vaguely know that there are some restrictions on who can become President (you have to be a certain age and be born in the USA iirc), how can it be that "Hasn't been convicted for any crimes recently" isn't a requirement?

[–] lime@feddit.nu 41 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

because political dissidents who are in jail for trying to overthrow a dictatorship should also be able to run. it's one of those unfortunate situations where this would be a good thing to have under an authoritarian government...

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[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

He is literally barred from running by the Constitution because he committed an insurrection. Unfortunately the House, Senate, and Supreme Court are all somewhere between 50 and 67% Christofascist traitors.

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[–] MidsizedSedan@lemmy.world 28 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Im more impressed than terrified. Choosing a guy who cheated on his wife instead of decrimanalised marijuana AND better healthcare. How???

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[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 28 points 2 weeks ago (13 children)

As much as I'd like to make fun of the 'muricans, I'm well aware Brazil would totally do the same fucking thing with jair bolsonaro. Thankfully the fucker is ineligible for another 7 or so years, but his sons are still causing trouble.

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[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 27 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

America wasn't built on just immigrants, it was built upon a certain type of immigrants: opportunists who placed greed above everything else. It shows.

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[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 27 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This is an insult to spoons.

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[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 26 points 2 weeks ago

For the third time in a row

[–] lime@feddit.nu 26 points 2 weeks ago
[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The writers really know how to keep the audience biting their nails, this season

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