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Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).

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[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 78 points 3 weeks ago

Brag about being an Arch user (BTW.)

[–] superkret 33 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Nothing, at all.
Some things you can't do easily in Mint, like create snapshots automatically and boot into them when something breaks.
But it's all Linux and freely available software under the hood, and the lines between configuration, customization and forking your distro are blurry.

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 5 points 3 weeks ago

ship of theseus

[–] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 26 points 3 weeks ago

Nothing, it's all Linux

[–] thejevans@lemmy.ml 24 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

You can't have your entire system configuration in a repository of plain text files, which has lots of advantages, but it's not worth caring about unless you feel excited to get into it.

[–] thatsnothowyoudoit@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 weeks ago

Found the other NixOS user. ;)

[–] oxomoxo@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Why not? Isn’t this the whole concept of Bash Script, Ansible, Terraform, etc… I mean it can be as simple as a git repo that pulls down an install script then syncs your dot files. What am I missing? If you’re referencing Nix, you can also have that on Mint.

[–] thejevans@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, I'm talking about not just Nix, but NixOS. Nix (the package manager) can do a lot, but NixOS + disko + home-manager can literally be all of the configuration for your machine from drive partitioning through to dot files. Throw in nixos-anywhere and impermanence and you can have an insane amount of control over all of your computers.

Ansible, Terraform, Chef, etc. do have some overlap, but the main difference is that those tools iterate through the system modifying it piece by piece and NixOS is declarative.

If something fails in some of my bigger Ansible playbooks, it could mean 30 minutes of just running through all the steps again. I could probably break it into sections, but then I have to worry about making sure they all get run when things get updated. In my NixOS install, it's way faster, I can roll back to a previous state, and troubleshooting is way easier in my opinion.

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[–] GravitySpoiled@lemmy.ml 22 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

You can't easilyy switch between different inages like on an atomic fedora system.

Do you have to switch now? No.

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[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 22 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (9 children)

Serious answer? XFCE doesn't support multiple monitors with different refresh rates. So that.

Some of the other answers (like Meta (aka Windows Key) not working for shortcuts) can be hacked around, but unless you switch to a DE that supports Wayland, you will never have stable multi refresh rate differences on multiple monitors.

[–] uzay@infosec.pub 4 points 3 weeks ago

I'm not a fan of the xfce UX at all, and multi-monitor support still has a lot of issues (under Debian 12), but I am pretty sure having different refresh rates is possible

[–] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 2 points 3 weeks ago

Serious answer? XFCE doesn’t support multiple monitors with different refresh rates. So that.

That's more of a limiation because of X11. KDE and Gnome do not support different refreshrates on multiple monitors as far as I know. Its the main reason why I never used multiple monitors. But on Wayland, this issue is solved. So if XFCE is ported to Wayland, they should also get this support for free I guess.

[–] 0x0@programming.dev 1 points 2 weeks ago

XFCE doesn’t support multiple monitors with different refresh rates.

I have an LG TV and an old Asus monitor, i'd wager their refresh rates differ but i can't confirm atm.

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[–] Nonbinary_Sahrah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Acces to the AUR I guess? But not much really. If you like what you have just stick with it

Also I use Arch btw

[–] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 9 points 3 weeks ago

Technically he or she has access to the AUR, but through website.^^ On a more serious note, one could install https://github.com/89luca89/distrobox and manager multiple package managers. Because each package manager is in a container, they do not interfere. I never used it, but imagine it like Flatpak, but actually using the package manager from the distribution (including access to AUR). And specific applications and programs can be "exported" to install them like a normal application, so you can access it with a single appname.

[–] exu@feditown.com 6 points 3 weeks ago

One could compile pacman and all the build tools if they really wanted to.

[–] LavenderDay3544@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago

Waste time configuring things and troubleshooting things when your ultra custom system breaks.

[–] ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Use Pacman as your package manager, or something. Linux is Linux. If you use a mainstream distro it should be 90% similar to all other distros. You don't really have to worry about FOMO when it comes to Linux.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

Everybody giving a version of this answer makes me feel better about maybe switching to Linux.

[–] notprogrammer@programming.dev 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Y-you're not supposed to ask that!

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[–] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

Compared to Arch(-based): Accesing the latest packages. It's not impossible, especially if you go for Debian testing repos, but it's definitely extra work.

Compared to special-purpose distros (i.e. gaming, portable, high security/privacy, pen-testing): Whatever their special purpose is will usually be harder to achieve.

Compared to huge corpo distros (SUSE/Fedora and derivatives): Ease of more intricate setups and maybe some security testing.

Compared to Ubuntu: Paying a corporation to not withhold security patches from you.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Running alternatives to Systemd.

[–] downhomechunk@midwest.social 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 weeks ago

waydroid (if you don't install a wayland based de)

[–] confusedwiseman@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

In my experience, not much, but I’m a marginally functional newbie. Mint manages things for you fairly nicely and has been the best, it just works with out messing with much/anything. (At least for my hardware)

I managed to get gnome working smoothly on mint and have been happy with it. I started and returned here since I last ditched windows as a native OS.

The only thing that has made me consider distro hopping from mint is AUR on arch and gnome, though I’ve been successful so far.

Part of trying the distros that are more advanced and give you more explicit control and configuration is the sense of accomplishment and it makes you figure out how and why things work the way they do. It holistically builds your velocity in your understanding of Linux. (Or gnu whatever that nuance is).

If your machine has enough resources it is super easy to host VMs of anything you want to try. You can try them all, and it won’t cost you anything but time!

[–] Nilz@sopuli.xyz 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

If you feel like you need/want software from AUR you should check out Distrobox. It can run any distro on top of your installation using Docker under the hood, but it tightly integrates into your system so with little effort you can run AUR programs from your launcher as if they were natively installed on your Mint.

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 2 points 3 weeks ago

My advice as well!

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[–] 0x0@programming.dev 4 points 2 weeks ago

Technically speaking: nothing really, provided you have time and skills.

Except maybe not having access to NDA-ed binary blobs or something...

[–] Sentau@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If you are speaking about stock Linux mint Xfce, with the default kernal, mesa version etc., your support for very new hardware - Arrow lake, battlemage and RDNA 4 will be imperfect. In general, very new hardware (launched within the last 6 months) will not be supported properly because the lts kernel being used was written before these products were launched

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Arrow Lake

Why would anyone curse themselves with that though?

[–] Sentau@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 weeks ago

The ultra 7 is actually a good all rounder. Decent performance (well balanced between gaming and production workloads), good efficiency and good pricing with respect to the AMD options. AMD is of course better for pure productivity (9950x), pure gaming (7800x3d and the upcoming 9800x3d) and is better at the low end (7600, 7600x)

[–] solidgrue@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

I mean....

Steam? Maybe? I dunno, I don't game but the Steam kids seem to prefer Arch. I'm sure they have their reasons.

Practically? Probably nothing terribly significant.

[–] phanto@lemmy.ca 14 points 3 weeks ago

Steam and Lutris work well! I can game on XFCE Mint just fine. I actually have an easier time of it than on a number of distros, thanks to the combination of flatpaks and the Ubuntu base. But, I am not "the kids".

[–] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 6 points 3 weeks ago

I think “they prefer” Arch because a lot of them just bought a Steam Deck and that comes with Arch and it just works.

SteamOS is arch, so some of the derivatives are too.

Steam shouldn't really care though.

[–] myersguy@lemmy.simpl.website 4 points 3 weeks ago

Reasons are usually just newest kernel/mesa/etc. Most of the time the difference is very small, and often inconsequential. However, every now and again there is a major development that might make it worth it (IE: The graphics pipeline that all but made dxvk-async obsolete)

[–] VITecNet@programming.dev 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm a complete noob in the games department. Btw, I see that you don't use Arch.

[–] solidgrue@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

Man, I got stuff to do. Lol.

[–] user@lemmy.one 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I love xfce. But ive tried gnome w tiling shell extension and wow. But i still miss xfce , once they come over to Wayland i think I will go back 🤷

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago

File-by-file integrity check against signed checksums upstream to trivially confirm validity of deployment.

But that's probably not interesting.

[–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 weeks ago

If you are using Gnome distros: you can feel exactly what it feels like getting back to working in a restricted, overhyped, overbranded environment like Windows.

If you are using Ubuntu: you can get advertising during your system's software upgrades. No, really.

If you are using Arch: you can post aroudn the internet saying you use Arch btw.

Depending on the distro, you can use some alternative software stacks, but that's mostly the backend (eg.: systemd versus openRC, Apache vs Nginx, X vs Wayland); most "desktop app" level is mostly the same for each desktop environment, is kinda the point.

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 3 weeks ago

Natively install RPM packages? Really, there's not much. Find a setup that you like.

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