A community for those who want to end work, are curious about ending work, want to get the most out of a work-free life, want more information on anti-work ideas and want personal help with their own jobs/work-related struggles.
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I dunno, $700/month for a shitbox doesn't seem like a good deal, sleeping in the car sounds far more reasonable at this point unfortunately
This is the same as renting a room in a house with probably more security and amenities also extremely close to your life activities. Sounds like a steal for the bay area tbh.
No for real, folks are complaining but I would rather sleep inside in a pod, safely than do it in my car
This has been a thing in Japan for a while.
But $700 per what? Month? That's insanely high everywhere but SF. You can't get an in-city anything for $700/m.
Rent in those cities for a 1 or 2 br apartment is probably 5k -7k
I dunno. These kinds of solutions might seem weird to someone used to having an entire apartment, but these kinds of living spaces are common in places like Japan.
And $700 is a lot to someone living in a LCoL area, but given that San Fran is a HCoL area, probably reasonably priced in that relative context.
I'm not picking on you, but the comparison to Japan when I read about things like this makes me very uncomfortable. I don't care that some people in Japan are comfortable staying in these things; I never want someone thinking this is acceptable for me to stay in. I don't want living in a box this small to be socially acceptable. This is being pushed on people as the new normal instead of a motel or possibly an apartment and it feels dystopian. My standards for me and everyone else are higher than this.
As I commented further down, I don't know if I would consider this an overall good thing. Is it better than being homeless? Yes. Is it better than a motel? Probably also yes.
Is it a good long-term solution? I don't know that I can say either way, honestly. It doesn't seem like a good long-term solution, but I have a lot of privilege, and perhaps my paradigm is biased.
And if something like this allows somebody to get on their feet, then maybe it's bad long-term but good in the short-term. I brought up Japan not to say, "This works, because look at Japan," but to point out that the "Western Ideal" isn't the only solution, and we shouldn't let cultural bias prevent consideration of other options or ideas.
What the actual fuck.
These aren't even well made compared to Japanese pods which have been a thing for a while.
These look like painted plywood with a curtain. Changing this space into "pods" probably cost a whopping 20k for an extra what? 35k per month income?
1 person with sleep apnea moves in? The entire ~~shared buckbed barracks of 50 people~~ luxury pod will be kept awake every night for the forseeable future.
Seriously? 700 per month with 0 soundproofing at all and a curtain instead of a door? There will quickly be quite a few SA cases and theft cases here I imagine.
It's absolutely horrible yeah. This is 2024. Is this the future people were thinking we would have...
Worst part of this is that there is a demand. There are 20 people applying for one ~~mattress~~ sleeping pod (name everything as "pod" and it sounds futuristic and elite). How is this place ventilated? Can you imagine the unbeareable stench the tenants emit while dwelling there? No wonder it violates city codes. The "privacy curtain" is a joke, you can't leave your stuff there unattended. It will get stolen in no time. It's like staying in a youth hostel.