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[–] sxan@midwest.social 98 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Which is worse: a line of asbestos, or a line of grounf-up fiberglass? I can't imagine either is going to do your lungs any good.

[–] BlueLineBae@midwest.social 92 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

From what I understand, asbestos is far worse. Fiberglass causes irritation but that's about it. Asbestos, while it takes its time, will eventually cause mesothelioma and you really don't want that.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 40 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Really? That's surprising. I would think inhaling a bunch of ground glass would severely damage your lungs, permanently.

[–] OldManBOMBIN@lemmy.world 42 points 3 weeks ago

Fiberglass is very smooth compared to asbestos, at a microscopic level. That's what makes asbestos so bad - it gets in there and works its way further in, like a porcupine quill. Fiberglass is by no means healthy, but it's a fair bit less harmful.

[–] subignition@fedia.io 32 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Asbestos can get to such a fine point that it can literally physically cleave DNA. Edit: I think I am wrong about that, please see my comment below

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] subignition@fedia.io 29 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I may have been misinformed, actually. Looking into it further, it seems like mechanical interference in cell division was ruled out. However, it seems there is some evidence that among other things, fibers beyond a certain length cause macrophages to essentially get destroyed trying to engulf them, which contributes to chronic inflammation, which is a big risk factor in many cancers

It's a bit above my head but here is a study I found https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7082251/

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

Thanks for the study

[–] Sylvartas@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago

Fiberglass probably won't feel nice and might leave some permanent scars, but iirc, asbestos will do that and then some, but with particles so small that your body can never fully get rid of it

[–] Denjin@lemmings.world 14 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, and asbestos does that too and then gives you mega cancer in about 20 years.

[–] Nindelofocho@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

I thought fiberglass causes silicosis?

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago

Both travels down to the aveola level IIRC, but asbestos has a small toxic atom that gets left there, which us why asbestos is so bad for your health.

[–] sparkee@lemmy.world 37 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This could be the intro to a Chubbyemu vid.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

"He made 'a' recovery"

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 28 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I have a friend who did a line of jelly crystals to avoid taking 2 damage in a game of MTG, but this is a new level of stupid.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Bro I'll do 2 damage to my damn self to have mana. The only number that matters is 0.

[–] Rampsquatch@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Buddy must have had less than 3 life.

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

No, the dumbass had 20, and he still lost the game.

[–] Rampsquatch@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 weeks ago

Well, I stand corrected.

[–] DarkSpectrum@lemmy.world 22 points 3 weeks ago

They're fucked. Not because of the asbestos, but because of their clear disregard for personal health and safety. God speed you crazy bastard.

[–] atocci@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh that is not good. Not good at all.

[–] Burninator05@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Citation needed.

[–] ladicius@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago

He made it through the FA part of this story. The FO part will start anytime.

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 12 points 3 weeks ago

New TikTok challenge: do a line of an unknown vaguely powder-like substance. The game ends with the death of somebody deemed cool/attractive enough to care about.

[–] radicalautonomy@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Spaz's House Destruction Party 2: Electric Boogaloo

[–] lemming741@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

You just teleported me back to high school