NCD would probably be delighted to have something that can be turned into multiple rods from god
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If I had one of those in my living room, my house would collapse.
Please deliver this to my moon base
2/10 Prize 8/10 Prize if delivery is included
I can put it in the front yard, spray paint it gold, and start a neighborhood cult around The Cube.
How does one join the cult for The Cube?
One must simply gaze upon the glory of The Cube. The Cube will invite you in, keep you warm, keep you safe. The Cube welcomes all. The Cube just wants to share.
You ain't putting it anywhere. It's getting delivered and staying where they put it.
A single 5 foot cube of tungsten would weigh about as much as an above average sized single family home.
I assume dumped on the yard would be the only delivery option.
That cube would be in the neighborhood of 1 million dollars of tungsten
I'm betting I got it a few months before someone can gather the equipment to steal it. It would have outlived its novelty and likely be a burden at that point. If the cult works out The Cube should be self sufficient and could even become a profitable local attraction.
That is... surprisingly little. Are you sure?
By weight probably, for it to be a perfectly symmetrical cube would likely cost you double that.
This could possibly be the worst possible prize. Raw tungsten isn’t actually that expensive. What’s expensive is working with it as it melts 3,410c (6,170f) isn’t very malleable and is heavy like really really heavy to move this block you will probably need larger equipment than standard industrial moving equipment, bigger trucks and loaders also you’ll need to get the city's permission to haul it on the roads , that alone is probably going to cost more than the cube is worth you will then have to pay a monthly storage fee until someone wants to buy it. Shouldn’t be that long right? It’s a valuable metal… well good luck finding a company that works with tungsten outside of china, and you absolutely can not ship it. But let’s assume you find someone who wants it(at a considerable discount) well now you have to higher the specialized movers again.
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Actually I just did the math and plugged in all the known values I could find and assuming you could sell it within the first year you could probably make $700,000, so it would still be well worth it. But a lot of trouble.
I wonder if there's a foundry in the world with a crucible that can hold, melt, and pour that much tungsten? To make a 5 foot solid cube.
Then imagine trying to machine the damn thing square.
Rocket nozzles are commonly made of tungsten, there are more than a few manufacturers in the US. Drill bits can be made of tungsten carbide. Armor piercing weapons use tungsten too. All of these have industries in the US.
Drill bits are coated in tungsten carbide. Sometimes. There are a variety of coatings.
The drill bits you're buying at the big box store are high speed still with some kind of coating to help them last a little longer. The specialty drill bits you're buying for working on metal are also HSS with a different coating and probably different tip geometry.
End mills are milling/lathe inserts can be HSS or carbide, also with some tungsten coating. Importantly, these are sintered, and made out of dust.
Tungsten carbide is waaaay too brittle to work as a drill bit.
https://drillbitsusa.com/product-category/solid-carbide-drill-bits/
You don't use solid carbide drill bits with a hand drill but with mills and cnc machines.
Spoken like a true tungsten connoisseur.
The company I worked for made tungsten nozzles, they had to be welded using atomic hydrogen welding. One day a bottle of hydrogen shows up and receiving rejected it, we had the supplier label it protium and it went right through.
but what if I want one 🥺
Then good news you can buy it! But you’ll have to commission it’s very specialized construction, and pay to have it shipped across seas… you know that thing I said you absolutely could not do, well with money all things are possible.
too bad, no giant cube of tungsten 4 u
It looks like panels on a frame and not solid tungsten.
Don't forget having to pay income tax on the original retail value of the cube (assuming this is USA where lottery and prizes are taxable gains)
Can you expand on why it can't be shipped?
Real answer is that it's obscenely heavy
It'd weigh 75 tons assuming that to be 5ft x 5ft x 5ft
Secret clause in the Molotov - Ribbentrop pact
The Catholic Church passed an edict worldwide banning the shipping of tungsten cubes larger than half a cubic meter in volume
That would violate the Treaty of Versailles
Sounds like a Peter Molyneux game. "And if you click on the cube, you might win another cube"
Assuming that's about 5x5', and going by the price of the first tungsten cube found on Google, this would be worth about 15 million dollars. Decent prize of you could move 150,000lb.
Going with your 5' x 5' x 5' size, that should weigh about 132,624 pounds, or about 66.3 tons. The price, as of 2018, was about $30,000/ton. That works out to be about $2M.
Still a pretty heft prize.
Didn't calculate the price by weight. Just took the number from the 6" cube here and extrapolated from that since it was the easiest math.
https://shop.tungsten.com/tungsten-cube/
The 5' cube is 1000 times the size of the 6" cube and the 6" cube is $15k. The prices don't scale up linearly though. The smaller cubes are better value by weight.
I'll make my own cubes! Will a sawsall get through that motherfucker?
Hmmm.
So the real game show is getting value out of the prize.
Best I can do is a copy of Battletoads
Welcome to another exciting episode of CAN! YOU! FENCE THIS?!?!*
Alright contestants, this week your prize is: 600 tons of wood chips! Whoever earns the most money selling your prize will be our lucky winner and move on to round 2.
Reminds me of an impromptu back and forth prank a set of brothers used to pull on each other where they regifted each other a pair of hideous moleskin pants in increasingly elaborate ways.
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I really wanted to use Tungsten as the base ballast for a custom narrowboat, for better headroom. Other than the cost you also have the problem of tungsten’s melting point being so high you can’t pour it into a boat hull without melting through.
You also can't melt it in general outside of some high tech magnetic field induction chambers, as doing so would melt the furnace in most cases.
Almost all industrial applications of tungsten involve electrochemistry or otherwise the mixing of fine tungsten dust.
Aircraft use tungsten ballast plates. I know it requires hardware, but would that have been viable?
Possible but the expense ruined my plans in the end… I did consider collecting broken tungsten end mills and inserts from machine shops and throwing them in molten lead, like croutons in a lead soup.
If I understand it right, you'd get mostly cobalt that way. Carbide tooling isn't solid tungsten or silicon carbide but carbide powder embedded in cobalt.
It's being teleported to your location as we speak. I hope you don't mind it would redesign a couple of floors below you.
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