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[–] DMBFFF@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

wp:Human rights in the Maldives

The constitution declares Islam as the state religion of the Maldives and states that all Maldivian nationals are required to be Sunni Muslims.[13] It is illegal in the country to proselytize any religion other than Islam, and advocate for secularism or the separation of church and state. Apostasy and atheism are also outlawed and those who identify as or accused of being apostates or atheists are punishable by death by Maldivian law (though unenforced) and are often subject to vigilante violence or attacks with little or no consequences for perpetrators by the authorities.

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Defamation and Speech "contrary to the tenets of Islam" is illegal.

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As the state partially practices Sharia law in some matters, homosexuality is illegal. The punishment for men is nine months to one year imprisonment, or 10 to 30 lashes. The punishment for women is nine months to one year of house arrest.[3]

[–] parascent@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Atleast we didn't kill 30000 civilians. Shut the fuck up.

[–] DMBFFF@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This is Lemmy: the Shariah law as practiced by the Maldives doesn't apply here,

nor did the Maldives fight a war for its very existence on the first day of its independence.

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee -1 points 2 months ago

Maybe shouldn't try to create a country on someone else's land? Refugees are supposed to assimilate into the culture, not create a separate ethnostate and expel the natives.

[–] 1Transient@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This is good from an economic POV too. Israeli tourists are generally chesp and racist. Just ask India.

[–] yojimbo@sopuli.xyz 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This is ubelievably dumb. Israel is not even a democracy. Yes, they may have some democratic laws, but they are also 70+ years under the state of emergency. There isn't free press. Israelis are getting locked up for protesting for peace, for refusing to fight in a apartheid war, even for liking facebook comments supporting Palestine. Aplying collective punishment / collective responsibility under such circumstances (as generally under any circumstances) not only doesn't support the plight of palestinian refugees, it goes against it!

I understand their (Maledives) motivation, but this is not the way. You can't punish all Palestinians for the crimes of the few, nor can you punish all Israelies for the crimes of the many.

Go ahead and downvote me.

[–] Tabula_stercore@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Go ahead and downvote me.

I got you bro

[–] yojimbo@sopuli.xyz -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Thank you! I don't think I've been this proud for getting down voted lately. And I don't blame you - I hope your motivation is same as mine - to end the tragedy that is currently happening in Gaza ASAP. IMO - You just aren't terribly adult about it, but I trust that you will get there <3

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I wasn't going to downvote until I saw the attempt at reverse psychology. Just make your point, don't try to manipulate the results.

[–] yojimbo@sopuli.xyz -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I expected to get downvoted, I got downvoted, I am not angry. Reverse psychology? Manipulate? Are you 100% sure you are not talking about yourself?

[–] dept@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

holy shit the difference in comments between here and reddit's world news on the same post is insane. Everyone there is a zionist.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

Reddit is mostly literal bots. Not figurative ones, literal ZionistGPT bots jerking eachother off.

[–] adj16@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What’s the vibe in there? Cause I don’t like the idea of punishing regular civilians for the government’s actions, so I’m not a fan of this decision. But I’m not gonna come in here and say something like “omg why though, Israel’s the victim!!!1”

[–] Pfeffy@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Israel doesn't have regular citizens because of their national draft. Just complicit people, settlers, and people who don't have to serve because Israel is racist.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

Hey now, don't forget about draft dodgers

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Nearly 11,000 Israelis visited Maldives last year, which was 0.6% of the total tourist arrivals.

Very nice. It's not just a symbolic boycot

[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

0.6% sounds exactly like a symbolic boycott.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

As the Maldives is a tourist resort 0.6% of the most major income is pretty big

https://www.budgetyourtrip.com/maldives

You should plan to spend around** $299 (MVR4,623) per day on your vacation in the Maldives.** This is the average daily price based on the expenses of other visitors

Even assuming that every tourist stays one single day that would be 3.3 million dollars. And I'd wager most tourists stay longer than that

[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So, admittedly, $3.3 Million is low-balling it, and that the real figure is probably something like $20 Million, assuming that each tourist stays ~1 week and spends $299/day as you have quoted.

But these numbers don't mean anything in a vacuum. More context is needed to understand the actual impact of this decision.

The Maldives have a GDP of $6.55 Billion. Assuming that this costs them $20 Million in tourism revenue, that's only a 0.3% drop in GDP. The annual fluctuation in GDP is ±9%. The impact of banning Israeli tourists is less than a rounding error on the Economy of the Maldives.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

An entire economy is made up of many parts. 0.3% doesn't sound like much but with big numbers it adds up.

A sacrifice of 20 million dollars is more than just symbolism.

[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The problem here is that $20 million isn't a "big number" compared to $6.55 Billion.

Believe whatever you want, I can't stop you, but you are objectively wrong.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

Let's pretend the Maldives is America. Would you say that America losing 0.3% of its entire GDP over a boycott is "symbolic?

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee -1 points 2 months ago

More countries should do the same.