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"It's not like the government is forcing you to buy a car!"

If you live in a city with parking minimums, yes they fucking are.

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[–] Wilzax@lemmy.world 72 points 1 month ago (5 children)

I agree that parking minimums are criminal, but get this AI generated slop off my feed

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

It's not even good genAI, looks like some dollar tree model made it LMAO

Why is this AI slop if it illustrates the point being made here?

[–] photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It gets the point across, doesn't it?

[–] petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Stacked rectangles get the point across. You ever seen geometry homework?

Aye, but fancy colors grab people's attention better than arbitrary shapes

[–] BossDj@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Elon said AI would be guiding the robots and driving the robo taxis.

If this is what ai thinks road markings are, we're in danger

[–] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

Current AI doesnt think, so I think we're good.

[–] Naich@lemmings.world 4 points 1 month ago

What do you mean AI? Have you not seen the new Furd Triangularblobcar?

[–] UraniumBlazer@lemm.ee 36 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

It's really funny how conservatives, who are supposed to be pro free market, anti governmental overreach support parking minimums - a concept that clearly is an example of governmental overreach.

[–] apprehensively_human@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 month ago

Conservatives are pro small government and anti regulation only when it suits their agenda.

[–] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Don't confuse opportunistic conservatives with dogmatic libertarians. They form a coalition most of the time, but conservatives don't just sell the gun, they use it when they feel threatened in their ~~wealth~~ power.

[–] orrk@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

you didn't make a distinction, dogmatic libertarians will happily shoot you to protect their money, fuck they will do it faster than the conservative, these fuckers wait for the day they get to go mad max

[–] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 month ago

100 ft² ≈ 9.29 m²

250 ft² ≈ 23.23 m²

500 ft² ≈ 46.45 m²

Parking minimums? Okay? Let’s have maxium distance from train station, maximum distance from bus station, minimum bike parking llaws too.

[–] bamfic@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

There is a ballot measure in Eureka California right now, measure F, in which a local multimillionaire is fighting to keep parking spaces, and stop housing from being built instead.

[–] Xeroxchasechase@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (3 children)

What's wrong with underground parkings?

[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

More expensive than the building itself below a certain size

[–] Xeroxchasechase@lemmy.world -4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's what regulations are for

[–] pc486@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Underground spots are roughly 20 to 50 thousand dollars each. Surface lots are only a few thousand per spot.

Do you want to invest in my coffee shop idea? I need a few million dollars to build the required parking.

[–] Xeroxchasechase@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It's hard to think beyond the individualistic businesses oriented thinking. I see you, it's ok.

But I was thinking about public parking spaces.

[–] orrk@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

maybe we just don't really need the parking spaces?

[–] Xeroxchasechase@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

People that need parking spaces choose their representatives and attend city halls. May we need to do the same...

[–] pc486@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

Parking regulations don't apply to public projects. Strong Towns well documents the problem with parking regulations as they are written and applied in practice. I highly recommend checking it out.

[–] azimir@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nothing. Build it if you want, but parking minimums are anti-people and city decaying laws.

[–] Xeroxchasechase@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

The point is, parking minimums should include area maximum. But yeah it seems they are especially designed to be awefull...

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Keep the space underground available for underpasses and subways.

[–] Broken_Orange_Juice@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I agree, fuck cars, but cars won't disappear and be banned overnight. Even if we begin getting rid of cars one policy at a time, parking will still be a requirement. I live in a country without any parking requirement laws (no laws at all really), and the roads are uhh... interesting. Even nicer areas have roads that feel like slums because everyone is parked all over the street.

[–] ECB 4 points 1 month ago

Nothing is preventing a business from building parking spaces though. It's just getting rid of the requirement to do so. It's essentially a free-market approach.

I think there are bigger issues wherever you are, in that there doesn't seem to be (enforced) parking laws. I see this pretty frequently in the Balkans, for instance.

The issue is basically that a lot of places people have this idea that, just because they own a car, they are entitled to a cheap/free place to park it. That type of incentive just leads to more and more people buying cars (and expecting a cheap place to park them) so it just makes the problem worse.

[–] orrk@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

dude, you really should do some introspection if roadside parking makes something look like a slum to you.

in this case, you might be part of the problem

[–] Broken_Orange_Juice@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

RoadSIDE parking is chill. Middle of the road, all over the road, motorcycles zipping in between parked cars, cars parked on the little sidewalks we have in my country. I've visited actual slums in the Middle East: they feel similar.