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[–] rumschlumpel 53 points 1 month ago (3 children)

"child, 13" - a 13yo is a teenager, not a child.

That article was a pain in the ass to read, horribly structured.

What she did: "The court heard the girl was taken to the protest outside the Potters International Hotel, which houses asylum seekers, by a parent of a friend. Police body-worn video showed the teenager briefly bang and kick at a door of the hotel while voices could be heard telling her to stop."

Her sentence, a "12-month referral order": "A referral order means you are required to attend a youth offender panel. The panel, you, your parents/carers and the victim (where appropriate) agree a contract aimed at repairing the harm that has been caused and addressing the causes of the offending behaviours." (https://unlock.org.uk/advice/referral-order-18/)

The conviction seems to be on permanent record, though, which does seem a bit much for this considering her age.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago (2 children)

If the Wikipedia page on expungement is accurate there is some sort of process where it will get sealed from public view after a certain amount of time has passed.

I do agree if this is a one off thing it shouldn't haunt the rest of her life, especially given the fact that we're talking about a thirteen year old who was a victim of (at best) extremely negligent caregiving.

[–] rumschlumpel 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Good find! And yeah, the referral order sentence seems to be rather obviously aimed at rehabilitation instead of punishing, would be weird if that was combined with a lifelong criminal record that is visible to potential employers and the like.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 2 points 1 month ago

Like, who the fuck lets some guy take their child to a violent riot?

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Teenagers are children, my dude.

[–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world -3 points 1 month ago

But a 22-year old is a child, also.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 49 points 1 month ago

Conservatives when a criminal justice system is punishing someone they don't like: "Blood for the blood god!"

Conservatives when someone's held accountable for a hate crime: "What has happened to our humanity?!"

[–] Naich@lemmings.world 35 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

There is a point to be made that it should be recognised that children can be groomed into abhorrent behaviour - similarities with Shamima Begum spring to mind.

The Express is not the place to go for that though, as it is an appalling shitrag which is firmly on the side of the rioters.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 month ago

Yuck, Daily Express. One of the nastiest rags in the UK.

[–] Mr_Blott@feddit.uk 24 points 1 month ago

The Daily Express is an utter shitrag, don't give them clicks

[–] WatTyler@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 month ago

the family, who live in a new-build house in a small town

How can they be racists?! They're middle-class!

Christ I hate The Express.

[–] veniasilente@lemm.ee 17 points 1 month ago

but feel the punishment does not fit the crime.

Agree. Was too soft. She went in and charged to vandalize and attack asylum seekers. Maybe some exile will teach her some empathy on how those people were already feeling.

[–] BrundleFly2077@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 month ago

“Shitrag.” I just wanted to say it too. “Shitrag.”

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[–] MediaBiasFactChecker@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

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