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[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 13 points 3 months ago (11 children)

I wish there were alternatives to Reddit. If anyone has a recommendation, let me know.

[–] BobaFett26@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Lemmy think on it and get back to you.

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[–] rwhitisissle@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (9 children)

How do you feel about Linux and leftist infighting?

[–] Archer@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Love Linux, but why be redundant about leftists?

[–] yukichigai@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Damn Leftists. They ruined Leftism!

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[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Sail the high seas.

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[–] ConstipatedWatson@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I almost feel like there's an answer there for you, but I can't put my finger on it.

However, last night I had a vision about th singer of Motorhead. I think it means something...

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 1 points 3 months ago

I'm struggling to see the connection with Lemmy "Kbin" Kilmister.

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[–] CaptainPedantic@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (9 children)

Reddit does shitty stuff, but at least I'm able to find stuff on there. Why Discord took off as a medium to replace forums is beyond me. It's not easily searchable, and search engines can't index it. If people aren't fastidious about replying to messages they're responding to, it's just a nonsense stream of consciousness from dozens of people.

That being said, I hate the formatting of most forums. Reddit and Lemmy's comment nesting is excellent. It's very easy to follow conversations.

[–] overflowingmemory@links.hackliberty.org 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Related Meme: Me and the person who had the same problem 14 years ago (Meme Image: Knight 🛡️ sits next to a skeleton 💀)

With the mass adaption of discord these kind of "nice search engine finds 🔍" will become rare again.

And I heard that reddit also has a special search engine deal with google while blocking others?

[–] DJDarren@thelemmy.club 2 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I use Opencore Legacy Patcher to run unsupported macOS on my older Macs. They used to have an excellent Reddit group that was easily searchable and rammed full of really good advice on how to fix common issues.

A couple of years ago they shuttered the group and moved everything over to Discord, and it’s been hell ever since trying to figure out how to fix something if it goes wrong.

You search for your issue, find someone talking about it, then have to pick through the dozens of replies either side to try and figure out if there’s anything useful. There are dedicated support threads now, but hardly anyone uses them, so they’re not helpful.

I really, really hate Discord as a support medium, and can’t for the life of me work out why the OCLP mods chose it over Reddit.

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[–] mox@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I hate the formatting of most forums. Reddit and Lemmy’s comment nesting is excellent.

The funny thing about this is that it's just plain old threading, which has been around since the 1980s or earlier, with the slight variation of showing message contents directly in the thread tree instead of beside it (thanks to today's high-res displays).

Usenet readers did threading. Email apps could do it if the developers wanted to; the required information is there. I'll bet there's forum software that can do it if an admin enables it.

For some reason, most corporations seem to have decided that classic message threading has no place in their interfaces. They resort to piling things into stacks or serializing them into seemingly endless scrolls. It fails to represent the structure of group discussions, and sadly, has been going on for so long that many people might not have ever seen the better alternative outside of reddit.

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[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (7 children)

I don't understand why discord is so popular for communities. There is 0 permanence, and google does not index it so not even organic growth.

Discord is a black hole of knowledge except for the ai training companies.

[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It attracts a different audience, so in aggregate it seems like your community is suddenly bigger because 1+1=2 right? What you don't realize is that you've divided your community into two separate groups with possibly different wants, needs and cultures.

[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 1 points 3 months ago

It's s great fit for people with goldfish memory span.

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[–] mr_robot2938@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I’m gonna keep posting on Lemmy and hope that helps. Our collective communities should not be in the hands of mega corporations.

Can someone tell me what happens if my Lemmy instance host shuts down 💀? Will my posts be deleted?

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[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I tried running a forum.... With 24 hours I had 10k posts for Russian porn... And I followed best practices to set it up.

[–] cjk@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 months ago

I am running a forum (about web technologies), and have been doing so for about 24 years (damn. I'm old). I had some spam problems, but was able to get rid of it.

It probably helps that I wrote the software myself (24 years ago there weren't many forum software projects).

But the traffic is declining. The peak was around 2003-2005, with >500 posts per day, and is slowly declining since then with a massive drop last year (about 19 posts per day). Young people only rarely use the forum anymore, despite massive modernization efforts, and the older people slowly disappear.

    1998 |   6686
    1999 |  40528
    2000 |  70379
    2001 |  41129
    2002 | 171294
    2003 | 203642
    2004 | 204685
    2005 | 173659
    2006 | 150000
    2007 | 135936
    2008 | 126283
    2009 |  94894
    2010 |  70333
    2011 |  48691
    2012 |  31197
    2013 |  30606
    2014 |  30227
    2015 |  29334
    2016 |  25472
    2017 |  27505
    2018 |  28551
    2019 |  22366
    2020 |  17250
    2021 |  12794
    2022 |  10135
    2023 |   7151

If the trend continues we will shut it down in a year or two.

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[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

There was a story recently about a depressing number of web domains disappearing. Everybody just gravitates to the big corporate sites now, and it makes the internet ecosystem boring and less diverse.

It's the equivalent of Walmarts running every mom & pop store out of town.

[–] perviouslyiner@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

That, and hosting & domains got expensive. It used to be a trivial cost to have a website, now the prices are all "introductory offers" with asterisks.

[–] i_have_no_enemies@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

if you have a thread you like, make sure to archive.is or archive.org it

[–] ch00f@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You can also request all of your posts on Reddit in a neat little csv. Takes about a month to get though.

[–] RustyWizard@programming.dev 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

And then you can go through and delete all your comments, lessening the value of Reddit as a platform.

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You can also edit all your high scoring comments with bizarre misinformation so the next AI scrape gets dumber.

[–] LostXOR@fedia.io 1 points 3 months ago

Even better, use an AI to generate the misinformation to save you time (and get even dumber misinformation).

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[–] TechNerdWizard42@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I like the idea of Reddit and it works much better than Lemmy. But the moderation and AI scraping make it a no-go site for me anymore which is a shame.

I love internet forums and have been a mod at some and very high poster at other. But the snowball effect gets them. If there's no traffic, there's no posts, so there's no traffic. You need to have a good community to make it work. One area reddit really shines, small communities exist on a huge platform. Great idea before the enshittification.

I hate discord and the fact that anyone replaces customer support or fan support pages with it, is just fundamentally broken. The idea of a forum is that the question is asked and archived. 20 years later someone else googles the question and sees the answer and all the replies that lead up to it. That's what forums are for. In discord you ask a question and 30 seconds later it's gone forever eaten by useless drivel. Never to be searched or found again. Idiotic.

[–] bluewing@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago

Yep. A traditional forum ages and grows old. And as they get older and older, it becomes harder to draw new members because of the clique of the core membership. I've seen a few traditional forums die that death over the years.

And some forums, and I belong to several, the members are literally dying from old age. We are all mostly old and retired. And we lose members every year due to death. Several times a year there is an obituary post for some long time member.

[–] BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

if anyone here used to go on kongregate a lot, go check it out now. it is depressing. they dont even have chat rooms anymore

[–] Peddlephile@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Welcome to the new era of enshittification where you'll eventually have to subscribe to access or make posts, and none of it will be searchable on any search engines.

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[–] curiousPJ@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Maybe for the generic cat/dog image sharing boards but niche topics like machining are still thriving.

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