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Discord is banned in Turkiye. The reason is some data theft, blackmail, AI montage photos, etc. As usual, our government made the easiest and most illogical move :)

I am looking for an alternative platform to talk and chat with my friends. Which platforms do you recommend?

The ones I tried:

  • Revolt: Voice chat is not stable. They do not accept new registrations.
  • Matrix: Unstable overall.
  • TeamSpeak: ancient interface. We can still try it.
  • XMPP: It has an old interface like TS. Not sure if it has voice channels.
  • Your recommendations?
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[–] crimsonpoodle@pawb.social 7 points 1 day ago

IRC: it’s open source, it’s free, its retro

[–] amnesiac@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

How about Guilded?

[–] Cossty@lemmy.world 37 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I use Steam Chat for playing games with family and friends. It has better audio quality than discord in my opinion, and you can make groups (something like Discord servers) too. It doesn't have all the functionality of servers, but the basic idea is there.

I am actually surprised nobody mentioned it yet Why use some third party application, when you can use the Steam's one.

It's not like the OP is concerned about privacy. They were using discord. They didn't say it has to be open source.

For talking outside of gaming or away from PC, I use signal.

[–] everypizza@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

matrix: unstable overall

"Unstable" is an understatement, and this comes from a girl who uses it all day every day.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Isn't it generally better if you use a smaller instance/host your own? Most of the complaints I've heard have been on the busier instances.

That said, I only use it occasionally to catch up on dev updates.

[–] everypizza@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 day ago

My current instance has ~160 users, and it's okay. I once used a friend's instance, where I was the 2nd user. It was very bad. That might in part be the fact that it was running Conduwuit though.

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 56 points 3 days ago (5 children)

waits for matrix fanboys to still chime in

[–] pisturko@lemy.lol 33 points 3 days ago (3 children)

My client shouldn't be bugged when I enter a room with a long history, right? Right?

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 47 points 3 days ago

Couldn't decrypt message

[–] schizo@forum.uncomfortable.business 32 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Hey, they're fixing that. Soon. Really. Any day now. For reals!

(That's the #1 thing that makes Matrix utterly unusable for me: if there's more than like, 10 messages, it's a game of is-it-broken-or-is-it-just-crap.)

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[–] mox@lemmy.sdf.org 46 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

Matrix is probably the closest to Discord overall. If Element is bugging out on you, it might be worth trying other clients. Nheko worked well when I tried it, for example. Do note that the matrix.org homeserver is sometimes overloaded, so if you're having responsiveness issues, choosing or running a different homeserver will probably clear them right up.

Mumble.info is great for voice. If your text chat needs are pretty basic, it might be a good fit. I don't think it saves message history.

XMPP is a protocol, not an app. If you you saw an interface you didn't like, you could always just use a different client. I don't usually recommend it, since setting it up with all the features people usually expect is a bit complicated and error-prone, but it would probably be fine among a small group of friends if one of them has tech skills. I don't think it offers voice, at least not in any widely-supported way.

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[–] twoface@sh.itjust.works 16 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Teamspeak 3 is ancient, but works.

However there is a new version of Teamspeak (TS5) which is much closer to Discord and looks much nicer. You could give that a try

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[–] femtech@midwest.social 16 points 3 days ago (18 children)

You could self host revolt.

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[–] Imma_lazyboy@sh.itjust.works 23 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I setup a Mattermost server for me and the boys. It’s more slack than discord. But chat, rooms and voice all worked. Push notifications worked on android and Apple. But, I had to admit defeat. No one wants to leave discord because they all have at least 1 friend who won’t leave it.

I tried to self hosted matrix, but it suffered the same feigned interest.

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[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 17 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Jitsi meet is what I use for calls with my friends. You can continue using revolt or matrix or something for the text channels.

https://meet.calyx.net/

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[–] tux0r 27 points 3 days ago (1 children)
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[–] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 days ago

KiwiIRC is a web based IRC client. Does not have voice chat afaik, but since it's IRC it's very lightweight and had a low entry barrier.

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

Discord is banned in Turkiye.

Considering the nature of these programs, I think the most important thing to hone in on is: what's popular in Turkiye? Features and functionality don't mean squat if no one's around to enjoy them.

...tad off topic, but this thread is making me miss xFire. That shit was better 10 years ago (maybe more like 15? idk, I'm old) than Discord was at its peak. ...litigated out of existence by Yahoo's frivolous weaponization of our legal system. This is why we can't have nice things.

 

Edit - Fuck you, Yahoo.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Eh, I'm honestly trying to give Yahoo another shake now that Google is so terrible. That said, Yahoo still sucks to use, and it lost most of the charm that it had in the 90s. And BTW, the xFire suit was around 20 years ago, so you may be older than you want to admit.

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

the xFire suit was around 20 years ago, so you may be older than you want to admit.

There comes a point where it kinda just blurs together. I'm old enough that when people ask how old I am, I have to stop and think what year it is, and do some quick head math to figure out the answer.

Dang, that hits too close to home for me too. I have kids, and sometimes I forget how old I am because I care far more about how old they are that it just isn't as important to me.

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[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

To those suggesting mumble, are there any good guides out there? The website is shockingly bad for introductory information.

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[–] sag@lemm.ee 11 points 3 days ago (2 children)

When it got banned? My Friend is from Turkiye. He still used it.

[–] elgordino@fedia.io 18 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Todays news

https://www.turkiyetoday.com/turkiye/turkiye-bans-discord-amid-concerns-over-platform-safety-62896/

For now, Discord users in Türkiye face limited access to the platform, though it remains unclear whether a full ban will be implemented in the coming days.

Still working for me on hotel wifi.

Edit: it won’t launch on my laptop now. Stuck trying to update. Still works on my phone.

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[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 8 points 3 days ago

I would not be surprised if a large chunk of population can evade bans, so no surprise.

[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

There isn't a full replacement for Discord out there, it'll have to be old school with multiple things together.

Teamspeak is great for voice comms (or Mumble). And you could use Matrix or XMPP for text chat. Matrix should be a lot better if you either self-host or join a smaller server that isn't so overloaded all the time.

For game streaming Broadcast Box paired with OBS Studio seems like a good option for low latency streaming.

[–] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 days ago (3 children)
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