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[–] Frog@lemmy.ca 168 points 4 days ago (3 children)

They know exactly what they are doing. They are going to blame the President. They don't care about their own people.

[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 88 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Because their people will blame the President too.

[–] takeda@lemmy.world 32 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (5 children)

There was recent shift in polls in Florida, making it a tossup state, I'm wondering if that vote by Republicans could have something to do with it.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Polls aren't very indicative of election results in a state with as much voter suppression as Florida.

There'd probably have to be at least 10% more voting age Dems than Republicans to make it competitive.

[–] Wiz@midwest.social 2 points 2 days ago

What if a few rural counties get washed into the ocean?

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The Harris campaign should be running 24/7 ads about how they reached out to DeSantis to offer aid and he refused to take the call.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago

They’re already blaming him.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 70 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Either the money won't come and she'll blame Democrats for that, or the money will come despite her and she'll take credit for it.

[–] affiliate@lemmy.world 27 points 3 days ago (1 children)

it’s the natural way of things for republican politicians

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[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

"Either the money won't come and she'll blame Democrats"

already happening, she must think that the wasted lives will be worth the bad democrats press she squeezes out of it

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[–] Bread@sh.itjust.works 73 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Look, I agree its bad but let's not blow it out of proportions here. It is not the "world's strongest hurricane" it is only the 4th world's strongest hurricane. Major difference.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 39 points 4 days ago

it is only the 4th world’s strongest hurricane

So far

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 23 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I detect a distinct hint of sarcasm.

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[–] nobleshift@lemmy.world 89 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

As of this post the projected path puts this hotel, a local landmark, The Don Cesar as ground zero.

The storm surge will flow unabated (nothing but net) into Tampa Bay and slam McDill AFB head on with 15foot+ storm surge & 100mph+ sustained winds, along with everything else from funneled driving water into the shallows / beach / inlets.

On the beaches all of the curbs and sidewalks and parking lots are sand mounds, broken buildings, debris, homes of wrecked and soggy (and decaying) furniture, bedding, cars, clothes motorcycles, e-scooters & bikes from 11 god damned days ago from the last hurricane to pass by.

The highways inland going north are choked. Half my family & friends are in Jacksonville in a hotel, they live 5 miles inland from the Don CeSar hotel. Those who haven't left yet can only hope to outrun this storm and drive south like hell, along a coast 1/4 of the way, to duck underneath it. Except there's no gas / petrol left where they are, and I suspect along the 1st 1/4 of the route. Home Depot / Lowes are all out or boarding wood(s), there's no bottled / jugged water left.

There's going to be sanitation and disease issues, fresh water and food issues. Three days after the storm there will be an explosion of mosquitoes, Deer & Black flies.

It's also been raining for days. Ground saturation was hit days ago. Even in Miami, a 5 hour drive away, we are completely saturated and have some flooding.

My childhood hometown will be a bloodbath.

I myself am south of Miami, in a mangrove waterway / swamp aboard my 29' cruising sailboat hiding out in the same fucking spot I left just 7 fucking days ago storm dodging.

So any Conservative / GOP / Republican / MAGA or thier supporters and enablers can burn in fucking hell. I'm dedicating at least part of my life to never knowingly allow these people, companies, or their products into my life.

Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago (7 children)

Crazy how we have a $1.4T national defense budget and yet we remain powerless in the face of some wind and rain.

Beginning to wonder if the budgets for the F-35A/B/C/D/I, the Virginia Class submarines, and STAR WARS anti-ICBM space laser systems might have been misspent relative to the need for sea walls, dykes, and storm bunkers.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago (6 children)

Wind and rain that we knew a century ago how to prevent. The greenhouse effect was discovered during the French Revolution. Catastrophic anthropogenic climate change has been known for about 50 years now.

The thing is handling wind and rain sounds easy until you understand it as force carried through the media of air and water. As a midwesterner I know not to underestimate wind, it can destroy your home without slowing down. This is a bombing campaign of force in a different form.

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[–] Commiunism@lemmy.wtf 60 points 4 days ago (6 children)

I kinda get the accelerationist-like game plan conservatives are doing here (voting down funding and then blaming the other political side), but it's just so evil considering that alternative options would actually help people and achieve the same effect.

Vote for relief funding, maybe do some "helping" for press photos to look good, spend some billionaire money that conservatives aren't lacking for fundraisers then boast about it, calling democrats and current administration ineffective. Same result but it might save lives with the added bonus that nobody can call you out on lying.

Is it really so hard to do some good every once in a while? It really feels like conservatives are allergic to morally good deeds.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They operate on fear and hate. Helping people won't activate either of those.

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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That’s their platform, they obstruct anything that might help unless the democrats accept moving rightward in the process. They’ve been doing it since Obama at least

[–] Zorg@lemmings.world 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They have been doing it for 50 years, it has just expanded and grown increasingly sinister:

First, the Two Santas strategy dictates, when Republicans control the White House they must spend money like a drunken Santa and cut taxes to run up the U.S. debt as far and as fast as possible.

This produces three results: it stimulates the economy thus making people think that the GOP can produce a good economy; it raises the debt dramatically; and it makes people think that Republicans are the “tax-cut Santa Clauses.”

Second, when a Democrat is in the White House, Republicans must scream about the national debt as loudly and frantically as possible, freaking out about how “our children will have to pay for it!” and “we have to cut spending to solve the crisis!” Shut down the government, crash the stock market, and damage US credibility around the world if necessary to stop Democrats from spending money.
https://www.milwaukeeindependent.com/thom-hartmann/two-santas-strategy-gop-used-economic-scam-manipulate-americans-40-years/

Wreck the government, then point to the Democrats and loudly claim everything is all their fault...

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[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago

It's way easier to sit in your office and screeeeeeeee.

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[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 49 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

The conservative politicians will do everything they can to make sure the locals suffer as hard as possible so they can use the horrifying footage and stories for a Hail Mary marketing push.

Conservatives will play victim and pretend Dems did this to them. Their dumb bullshit will not work this time. The Dems are ready and will be campaigning with the fucking receipts.

I am truly sad that so many innocent people are being harmed by these conservative-caused climate disasters and the deadly conservative mishandling of them.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 19 points 4 days ago

Victimhood is their identity. I was reading, just yesterday, about how christians were not persecuted any more than any other non-Roman religion. But we all know the stories of christians being fed to lions. They want the mythology.

[–] BalooWasWahoo@links.hackliberty.org 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

I, sadly, call bullshit. The last time the democrats were actually good at pushing back forcefully with campaign messaging was when I was still in diapers. Now add in that democratic points actually need a modicum of thought put into them to accept them, while republican points are like grade school insults and comebacks that just 'sound good,' and I doubt we'll get big gains from republican-precipitated disasters.

Edit: Seriously... think about how many people believed that photo of trump wading through floodwaters. And how many others don't even care about obviously fake images like that, choosing to have the idea that such things are normal and okay.

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[–] Wino@lemmy.cafe 52 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Our infrastructure is garbage. Our power was out for 2 days last time and Helene barely grazed us. Like one band hit us a bit. This one is heading straight at us so I expect to lose power for a few days at least. DeSantis is a fucking dumb piece of shit. But hey, he refused to talk to Harris to try to score a few political points and the braindead boomers will be going insane with joy.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 17 points 4 days ago

Buckle up. From what you've said and my old experience with hurricanes from the past (I live in VA now and we rarely get touched), you're going to be out of power a week at minimum. I'd bet on much more. If you haven't already, get whatever supplies you can. I'm sure they're mostly gone at this point, but if you're in the path and your ground is already saturated, you're going to be hurting. Ideally, get the fuck out, but it's probably too late for that.

A few days? Mate, I hope that's the case, but my experience with direct hits from cat 3+ hurricanes is weeks to months. Only the lucky get it back quickly.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago

All so they can say, “Look how little the Biden administration is doing for the people of Florida!”

Literally putting life and property on the chopping block for their political posturing.

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You see that soulless glare on the faces of a lot of people who have traded their morals for profit.

She's in good company with the GOP, very on brand to be an ignorant cunt throwing your constituent's corpses at the rising tidal waters of reality.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

and either they dont smile or they smile like psychopaths

[–] N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.com 49 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

If it passed in spite of her dissent, she’ll take credit for it with her constituents. They always do.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 26 points 4 days ago (7 children)

Tampa Bay and Orlando are two of the largest tourist cities in the state. I'm curious to see what the honorable representatives from Disney and Universal Studios are going to say in the aftermath of this thing.

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[–] grue@lemmy.world 38 points 4 days ago (2 children)

"God should smite the sinners!"

"Wait, no, not like that!"

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[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 30 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I strongly encourage all Florida pure bloods to stay out of the FEMA death camps. Shelter in place.

Fun Fact: when you're heating the sewage water to drink in your flooded town, you don't actually need to boil it. It's fine to just heat it up until you can't keep your hand in the water for ten seconds, that means it's hot enough to kill bacteria.

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 32 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Guys, i think this a sarcasm.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 33 points 4 days ago

Found the Deep State Baby Eater

Real Patriots Know The Truth when They Hear it 🇱🇷

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[–] shortypants@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

She's cute so they will back her and continue to vote for her. Florida GOP has figured this out and flexing hard. Run a cute vapid cunt and you're good.

[–] CyberMonkey404@lemmy.ml 20 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Is she living in that district, though?

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Why would a maga rep actually live near the people they represent? They are grifters, not actual representatives of anyone. I'd be surprised if she even lives in Florida at all.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Lived in Panama City Beach during Hurricane Michael (2018). GOP mayor stole funds from hurricane relief, used them to hold parties on yaughts, bought a new house in Jacksonville and finally got sentenced.... To 1 month in jail.

https://www.mypanhandle.com/news/lynn-haven-corruption-case/former-lynn-haven-mayor-sentenced-in-felony-case/

Side note: when Trump came down to see the damage in Panama City Beach/Panama City/down to Tyndall Air Force Base, he only wanted to go with her, not the mayors of either of those 2 cities.

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[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Is this another non white woman that's a Republican? Talk about a traitor... Jesus Christ

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[–] Blackout@fedia.io 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

She should go stand on the beach and try and stop it with thoughts and prayers

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[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I find it frustrating that she's so blazingly hot and simultaneously such an incredibly ugly person. I was explaining this to my girl, and she said "she's like the female Josh Hawley."

Yes, I immediately criticized her for saying he's hot, he looks like a goober d-bag to me. But, she pointed out, as a hetero man my vision isn't clouded by his looks, so all I see is the pure, Emperor Palpatine evilness of him.

She thinks he's evil too, but a good-looking evil apparently.

[–] nelly_man@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

I can see his attractiveness to some extent, but I think it's mostly that he's an average looking dude of relative youth in comparison to his colleagues in the Senate. Put most men in a well-tailored suit and you'll set at least some hearts aflutter. Give him time and his lich core will take over.

And yeah, she looks like your typical Fox News broadcaster who has been chosen primarily due to their pretty face and ability to spread vitriol with reckless abandon.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 10 points 3 days ago

And guess who they will blame when dozens of registered voters die.

They will still vote for her.

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