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Donald Trump on Sunday proposed a new policy that many critics said is equivalent to legalizing "The Purge."

Trump spoke at a rally in Pennsylvania, where he admitted that his attendees were "falling asleep" at one of his earlier rallies. Vice President Kamala Harris' campaign noted that, as Trump was still speaking at the swing-state event over the weekend, rallygoers placed directly behind the former president started to funnel out of the building.

One comment Trump made drew condemnation on social media, as well as numerous comparisons to The Purge, a film series based on a dystopian world in which the government makes all crimes legal for a 12-hour period.

As reported by Sebastian Smith, AFP Washington desk chief, "Trump in Erie, PA, says in US 'the police aren’t allowed to do their job.' To stop crime, you need 'one really violent day.' He says: 'One rough hour and I mean real rough, the word would get out and it would end immediately.'"


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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 186 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Every time I think this motherfucker can't surprise me by going any lower...

[–] Lets_Eat_Grandma@lemm.ee 95 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He will say absolutely anything to get in power and avoid the catastrophe that awaits should he fail.

With all the crimes he’s committed that are well documented and easily proven and thus far only some convicted but not sentenced, he’s walking a tightrope. If he falters the consequences are dire.

At best his debts catch up to him and his family legacy is in tatters.

At worst he is in prison for the rest of his life from a treason charge.

If he wins no judge will sentence him until he’s out of office, which he may never be with all the GOP groundwork being laid to create a puppet dictatorship controlled by conservative oligarchs.

[–] Boozilla@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I half expect him to go running into Putin's arms at some point.

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[–] Chozo@fedia.io 148 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Purge works both ways, Donnie.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 147 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Unfortunately the press and the peanut gallery have it very wrong on this one.

He's not calling for the purge.

He's calling for krystalnacht.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That was a purge though. Also the night of the long knives.

Yeah the message is getting across.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 month ago (9 children)

When people are using the the term "The Purge" they mean like in the movie series. Very different concept.

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[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 33 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sadly he'd have his little safe room to quiver in until the dust settles. Like the rich people in the movies that would drop security shutters and party through the holiday.

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

Wouldn’t even be in a safe room, he just wouldn’t be in the country.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 23 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Getting way too real but those movies are actually well worth watching. No, not the first one where Ethan Hawke and Lena Heady are rich white upper middle class people who are betrayed by their neighbors because they didn't own enough guns. Like... every other Purge movie

The reality is what we already see. The Holy Second Amendment is supposed to let people defend thmselves but it results in rich (predominantly white) people owning forty ARs and heavy body armor whereas lower class ethnic folk MIGHT have a pistol for self defense. And when shit hits the fan? Fat white kids cross state lines to mow down some protesters with their assault rifles.

And every movie (except the god awful first one) addresses this. Bubba Gump's convenience store lost their purge insurance so he is forced to try and defend his livelihood. Hispanic women are openly told they will be raped when the clock hits 6 (?). Impoverished black neighborhoods have klan members bussed in to murder them all (its cool though because Y'lan Noel goes John Wick on the nazis). Totally Not Hilary Clinton gets the biggest target ever painted on her head on purge night (its cool though. Frank Grillo is mostly only a dumbfuck that Chris Evans will never talk to again but damned if he isn't an awesome white guy with a pistol). And the rest of the rich white fucks just hang out in panic rooms with the poors they bought the rights to torture and murder.

Because that is the reality. Privilege is everything. If you have enough money you can avoid the consequences of anything. Whether it is the decades of horror because people were too busy looking at Marisa Tomei's ta-tas to realize she should not be allowed to write legislature, the fucking idiocy of wanting a heavily armed populace, or just driving drunk and running over a few kids in a car.

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[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 140 points 1 month ago (12 children)

I don't think Trump is talking about a purge. What Teump is saying that the police should be allowed to get as violent as they want for that one hour.

You know typical dictator stuff.

[–] xlash123@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That was my interpretation too. Still lawlessness, but for the police.

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[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Hilarious, as if police haven't been doing what they want this entire time. They literally rape minors they arrest and get away with it. They barely have consequences already.

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[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 19 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Yep, and that is a lot worse.

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[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 131 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The Purge, Period checks, no overtime, mass deportations. The future looks bright. Thank you for bringing so much joy to the world GOP.

[–] ModestMeme@lemm.ee 78 points 1 month ago (38 children)

Don’t forget to vote third party or not at all because the Democrats aren’t perfect or because electoral college or voting day is a Tuesday…. s/

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[–] baronvonj@lemmy.world 90 points 1 month ago (16 children)

So just let the cops go out and hit the streets free of ethics and legal restraint to just do whatever the fuck they want for an hour to beat the public in submission. That's not at all dictatory. Nope. Not one bit.

[–] CaptainSpaceman@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago

Yeah, his suggestion is actually worse than the Purge.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Isn't that basically where we are already?

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[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 84 points 1 month ago (6 children)

The Purge has been central to Q Anon.

It was supposed to happen 4 years ago but trump lost.

Had he won, the trucker convoy would have been a part of it.

(I was witness to some chatter and had this directly communicated to me.)

Also, see: the turner diaries a book. A horrible violent racist book. There's a theme throughout.

"The day of the gun and rope"

One of the organisers of the convoy in Canada loved using the phrase, "day of the rope" in reference to hanging our prime minister. (Also see "diagolon")

The threepers/ 3 percenters ara group that believe it would take 3% of the population to bring about an ethno state.

They operate in Canada and the us and were VERY visible in Ottawa.

[–] Zementid@feddit.nl 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (12 children)

I don't in understand how these people really think they are the only ones capable of violence.

What do they think "the opposing side" will do... lie flat and wait for a bullet to the head?

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[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 80 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They make it sound like he shouldn’t have said it out loud. This is the shit his loyalists love! He means to say it and they were meant to hear it.

He wasn’t “caught” doing shit.

[–] mortemtyrannis@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 month ago

The night of broken glass is literally their guide book.

Why would this be surprising to anyone…

[–] Vorticity@lemmy.world 62 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Normally when I see a headline like this it is taking Trump out of context or giving a very uncharitable take on what he said. Every once in a while, though, what he said is truly as ad as the headline makes it sound. This is one of those times.

He is literally calling for either The Purge or Kristallnacht! This man is calling for mass murder as a way to solve crime.

[–] immutable@lemm.ee 50 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I remember when I first heard the “we will build the wall and Mexico will pay for it”. I thought, “oh they must be taking him out of context that makes no sense”. Nope

He is pretty consistently advancing absolutely batshit insane things. I don’t think he actually gets taken out of context that often, not because the media is fair, but because the shit he says is so goddamn insane there’s no need.

Is there something in recent memory where you think there was a headline that misconstrued what he said?

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[–] sandbox@lemmy.world 57 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Uhm, I don’t think this is a reference to the Purge, I think this is a reference to the Day of the Rope from the Turner Diaries

[–] SassyRamen@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago (5 children)

As much as I know Trump is a piece of shit nazi, it's far more likely that he watched a movie, rather than anything to do with reading.

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[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 54 points 1 month ago

Donald Trump: "I will literally do a Kristallnacht, and kill queer and ethnic minorities with impunity using a standing army. I want to use the police to extrajudicially slaughter undesirable citizens."

Media: "Donald Trump thinks the movie The Purge is real! 🤪 What a goofball! 🤣"

[–] Godric@lemmy.world 53 points 1 month ago (8 children)

Unrelated to the content, how does a self respecting journalist start an article's title with "Omg"?

Like I feel dirty even giving them a click when I have no obligation to society, it's just depressing to see them presenting as a credible news source

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[–] exanime@lemmy.world 53 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (8 children)

Everyone here thinking Trump is saying the quiet part out loud... but as the senile old man he is, I think he just saw the movie and is confusing whatever his handlers told him to say with that he fell as sleep watching on TV

[–] androogee@midwest.social 61 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (7 children)

Naw this is a case of the media tiptoing around him and preferring easily digested headlines.

He's clearly not describing The Purge in the actual quote. He doesn't want to make crime legal.

He's describing Kristallnacht. He wants the cops to be able to punish anyone they want with as much violence as they want. He wants a massacre of anyone they declare a criminal, aka minorities and dissidents.

It's so much fucking scarier than the bullshit headlines and it's so fucking frustrating.

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[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 44 points 1 month ago

One comment Trump made drew condemnation...

Just one?

[–] GuyDudeman@lemmy.world 43 points 1 month ago (5 children)

I'm not all that surprised. Is anyone else surprised at this? Like, The Purge is the Republican wet dream.

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 31 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The Purge is a metaphor for eugenics based on wealth. It's a libertarian's fantasy of what a genocide would be. Ofc they love it.

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[–] KonalaKoala@lemmy.world 40 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I think Trump wanting to "make all crimes legal for a twelve hour period" should be enough to dump, disqualify, and imprison his @$$.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

I think if he made all crimes legal, for 12 hours- and gave people plenty of warning, he’d be dead in the first.

I mean, it must be an exercise of immense self control to be on his security detail, and not constantly wonder about the good that could happen. If they just.

Also. Throw in all his cooks and food delivery people, the people that maintain his vehicles. The people that maintain the golf course… the mail people. The people that do the laundry. Change his diapers. The people that manage his medications.

There’s an awful lot of people that he relies on to survive. Any one of them could end it, and he shits on them near constantly.

Remove the threat of consequences? Oh yeah. It’d be a battle royally, and he’s the king to regicide.

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[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 37 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)
[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 46 points 1 month ago

To stop crime, you need one really violent day.

Yeah someone tried that at one of his rallies, but he missed.

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[–] sunbytes@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I suspect he's talking about giving the police carte blanche, not anyone else.

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[–] nifty@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago (4 children)

This is all you really need to know about any of this

University of Texas law professor Lee Kovarsky said, "People confuse telling hard truths with just being a total f------ idiot."

Not enough people are shamed into keeping quiet these days, they think they’re being politically incorrect or edgy or owning woke libs. They’re really just letting everyone who knows how things work that they don’t know

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[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

the police are 0.6% of the population.

including their families they could be wiped out very easily.

i think that trump wants to use the police to incite a class war to avoid losing the election.

i have no idea who would side with whom in the US.

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