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It's like the Helldivers 2 incident, but for a single-player game, there's no excuse.

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[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 122 points 2 weeks ago (14 children)

It's not review bombing when there's a legitimate problem!

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Is it not? What is "review bombing"? I thought it was just when a bunch of negative reviews were submitted in a short period of time.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 30 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

there’s probably no official definition, but you could argue it is supposed to refer to negative reviews that have nothing to do with the product. Like when a bunch of idiots gave Captain Marvel 1 star reviews because they hate Brie Larson.

[–] burgersc12@mander.xyz 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

This is how I assume it would be used, but some people use it to mean "this got a lot of negative reviews right away"

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[–] lunarul@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Review bombing is an intentional attack (e.g. someone posts a story about a shitty restaurant owner and everyone on the internet starts leaving negative reviews for that restaurant even though they've never been there). Just getting negative reviews organically for being bad is not review bombing.

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[–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 70 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

God of War Ragnarok PC port ~~suffers~~ earns review bombing on Steam due to PlayStation Network account requirement

Fixed it for them

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

God of War Ragnorak earns thousands of bad reviews as Sony launches inferior product

FTFY

[–] The_Cunt_of_Monte_Cristo@lemmy.world 69 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I hate the "review bombing" term.

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 31 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It’s been diluted by improper use, not unlike “trolling” or “incel.”

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It’s a set of criteria. Reviews are organized from outside the review site, are negative, and generally come from people without any real interest in the piece of media.

[–] Cadeillac@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Thats what I thought. Essentially brigading right? Having a universally panned 'feature' in a game and receiving negative reviews should not have the negative connotation that review bombing brings

[–] vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 week ago

exactly. Their complaints are actually relevant to the game, not some unrelated ideology

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 58 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"Review Bombing" implies these aren't legitimate reviews from miltiple real peoples.

Sony is just selling an inferior product, that should be the headline.

[–] ObsidianZed@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago
[–] nek0d3r@lemmy.world 46 points 2 weeks ago

I hate that the term "review bombing" completely generalized to just "a lot of negatively reviewing something". Review bombing is supposed to be negative reviewing that's not relevant to the game, like when it was originally used to speak out against publishers, because, you know, that's the only thing that seemed to get their attention. Now we just have the tools and excuses to just kill genuine criticism.

[–] rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Remember when this happened with Helldivers and a bunch of people switched their review back from negative to positive when Sony backed off the requirement? Because they'd "learned their lesson"? Lol

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Sony still left the rootkit in the game, though. I think Helldivers 2 might still be active if not for that.

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[–] Blizzard@lemmy.zip 28 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I sympathize with fellow PC gamers for this needles requirement (even though PSN account is my main account). I'm just surprised there's no similar backlash for other devs requiring respective account creation (EA, BioWare, Blizzard etc. etc.). Sony did not invent this practice.

[–] Wimopy@feddit.uk 23 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

There is. Newer EA games, anything with Epic Online Services (but especially with a login), etc. They get negative reviews fairly consistently.

Some older games get overlooked, but even then adding in a third party software (not even necessarily needing an account) often lowers a game to a mixed rating on Steam for recent reviews.

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[–] warm@kbin.earth 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The account creation sucks, but it's mostly in multiplayer games or for a multiplayer feature in a game, to enable things like cross-launcher play and such (not needed if they made it right, still an attempt at data collection). God of War is a singleplayer game that has no need for an account requirement, so it's just there for data collection, singleplayer games shouldn't even be connecting to the internet.

[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I feel like The Jedi Fallen Order had this requirement through EA?

[–] warm@kbin.earth 6 points 2 weeks ago

According to Steam it does. I stay away from AAA bullshit myself anyway.

[–] steal_your_face@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Well if it blocks playing on steam deck and Linux it’s not like other devs requiring account creation.

Edit: looks like this one works on steam deck actually so disregard. Looks like it requires an internet connection to play though which is wack.

[–] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 week ago

Also weird, the game includes the unnecessary PlayStation overlay, which makes it unable to run on Linux. The devs were nice enough to specifically disable the overlay on Steam Deck, but all other Linux players have to set a special launch option to fake being a steam deck in order to get the game to run.

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[–] RangerJosie@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago

As it should.

[–] Bonje@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I think this will end with playstation making yet another launcher on PC. No paying Gabe a cut, PSN all they want, tight review control. Really hope it doesn't come to that.

[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Then they can join the list of 'AAA' game publishers that have had to eat crow and (re)release on steam after their own launchers flopped horribly.

[–] Skates@feddit.nl 22 points 1 week ago

I hope it does. Then they can fuck off and die nameless, cause I'm not buying it if it's not on steam or gog, and I've recently aso begun not buying it if it requires a PSN account. Take your shitty business practices and stuff them up your console's ass.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Don't you need to have the game in order to review it? Or did that change?

[–] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 week ago

People are buying it, unable to play because of PlayStation account requirement (the PlayStation servers are having issues and not letting people log in or create an account), and then leaving an angry review and refunding it.

[–] 474D@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

People will buy it, review, and then get a refund within the return window.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 4 points 2 weeks ago

I was thinking that after I commented. Sounds right.

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[–] cory_lowry@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I've already beaten the game. It hasn't asked me to sign in. There's still a "sign in" button in the main menu.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 13 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

I'm guessing they tried to allow it temporarily, hoping it would reduce the backlash, then flip on the requirement later.

The fact that there's a giant box that says account linking is required is enough for me to never touch it. Fitgirl already has a repack so I guess I need to reinstall Windows to get it installed...

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