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[–] BigLime@lemmy.ml 9 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Could it be because she said, 'Israel has a right to defend itself'? Using the language of an apartheid state and genocide defender. I've read her books, she's a classic example of someone who wants to appear progressive, while trying to stay within the boundaries of the establishment.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 hours ago

When she first became the candidate, I listened to a podcast covering her entire career. The sad thing is that she used to stand for progressive principles, even when it was politically dangerous to do so. Over time, though, she's become more and more conservative. For example, she used to be against the death penalty; now she's for it.

[–] banshee@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

From NPR's article:

"At this time, our movement 1) cannot endorse > Vice President Harris; 2) opposes a Donald Trump presidency, whose agenda includes plans to accelerate the killing in Gaza while intensifying the suppression of anti-war organizing; and 3) is not recommending a third-party vote in the Presidential election, especially as third party votes in key swing states could help inadvertently deliver a Trump presidency given our country’s broken electoral college system,"

I'm glad to see they're not advocating for Trump or a third-party candidate that would help him win the election.

[–] Zannsolo@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

They don't need to endorse her, but the only smart move is to vote for her.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

The only move, really. That should say something about the system, but it still is the only — and right — move.

[–] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works -1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
  1. opposes a Donald Trump presidency, whose agenda includes plans to accelerate the killing in Gaza while intensifying the suppression of anti-war organizing;

No they fucking don't. They're sitting on their fucking hands.

[–] banshee@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I'm confused by your statement. As far as I know, Trump has advocated for escalating violence in Gaza and everywhere else.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works -1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Do you have a quote? The only thing I've heard Trump say about it is A) the Oct. 7 attack wouldn't have happened if he were president (lol) and B) he would tell Netanyahu to "end it". He refuses to elaborate.

Whether Harris or Trump is president, it won't matter for the situation in Gaza.

[–] banshee@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Here's one article with a good bit of content for you: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-israel-gaza-finish-problem-rcna141905

One quote:

Trump did lay out a few markers in the three weeks that followed the Hamas attack. He said on Oct. 11 that a future Trump administration would “fully support Israel defeating, dismantling, and permanently destroying the terrorist group Hamas,” while telling the Republican Jewish Coalition later that month that Hamas fighters “will burn forever in the eternal pit of hell." That month, his campaign also said that, if elected again, he would bar Gaza residents from entering the U.S. as part of an expanded travel ban.

[–] antmzo220@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This should be expected.

Why would a pro-palestine group endorse a candidate who is pro-Genocide of the Palestinians?

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca -3 points 9 hours ago

Because in a binary decision between bad and worse, there is still a preference. And when abstaining has historically favored the worse choice, doing nothing is bad.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Based. Imagine voting for Genocide.