While it's not nearly as customizable as an Ubuntu kernel, it's still easy to make your GrapheneOS look and feel exactly how you want it to, within reason.
WTF is it supposed to mean?
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I love graphene as much as the next guy, but this article is pretty terrible. Badly researched, just spitting out talking points that are either flat out wrong, not the point of graphene or just scratching the surface. Look up the graphene homepage, if you actually want useful info.
Tried to switch to graphene for a bit. Way too many apps don't work in it.
But out of curiosity what apps didn't work for you that were deal breakers?
Could you elaborate? I've switched just to check it out and never moved back.
Oh. I tried a bit before giving up. But lack of compatibility plus the insanely unreliable pixel battery just made me switch back to iPhone.
Thank you for the link though.
I would love to make the switch, but I am certain that absolutely zero of my government mandated apps will run on this thing.
WTF do you mean "gvt mandated apps" !?!
Mandated is the wrong word. "Required for absolutely everything" is more precise. In Denmark you need an app called "MitID" to do any kind of digital verification. You can't do online purchases, banking or digital bureaucracy without it.
Well sorry to hear that, it sounds like a special kind of hell.
It's not really. Much better then US' lack of any one consistent system (or even lack of electronic option) and random OTP generators. But makes switching phone OS feel like a pretty big risk.
I mean it may be pretty well done and thus 'safe' (curious if said app is open source?), but it sounds like you, as an individual, are tracked for most of your activities. Is cash still a mainstream option for payment?
Also, it's probably a costly stretch and really depends on your threat model, but could still have a phone with said app for any activity that requires it, and another one running GOS for a more private use.
You can still use cash. It's just for electronic payments and ID verification. Though cash is exceedingly rare.
A unified ID system just means you use the same login details for each government agency (tax office, dmv, healthcare, etc...) Instead of a different system for each. It's also a stand in for a physical signature. It also ensures your data is consistent through the entire government as it's the same database.
I think it's significantly more secure for the individual than in the US and, as far as tracking, it's not like the US' insecure identity verification systems make it more difficult to track you. The US makes it easier for others to steal you're identity, and for you to get screwed because an employee misread your name on a net form they have to manually copy into their cobal database or whatever.
Fair enough. I'm not in the US & I don't know how things are going there, but here we also have the opportunity to use the same ID for different gvt services (or to use specific ID), but nothing is required for electronic payment (although the credit card is obviously linked to your identity), and overall I barely have to use my account on any of these services, unless I have a request which really occurs a couple times a year max.
And we can log on the website, no need to use any app, which work juste fine even with a VPN.
How do people who don't have smartphones do it? Is there some harder roundabout way?
You can use a keychain OTP generator (in Norway). I have no clue how it generates verifiable codes. The phone app is more convenient, and to the point at hand, actually connected to the internet/NFC. In any case it's factor 1 in a 2FA (And then some), so the same way any 2FA would work.
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It Feels Almost Like Android... But It Isn't
So what is it?
I think what they attribute to that "android feel", is google spying on them at every turn.
Most important thing for some people: the battery of the pixel sucks balls
I've almost never had an issue. Like ever, unless I forget to set my phone on a charger when I went to bed. And even then, it would just be in the single digits by the end of the second night.
I think I've had my phone die on me twice since I've had it (Pixel 6 Pro).
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Do you mean that it's worse on GrapheneOS in comparison to stock?
I think only their way of emulating play store apps is heavy on the battery. But I could be mistaken.
Here's a summary of the article and the seven key points mentioned about switching to GrapheneOS:
Summary: The article discusses GrapheneOS, a secure, privacy-focused mobile operating system based on Android. It highlights the benefits of switching to GrapheneOS, its features, compatibility, and user experience. The article also addresses potential concerns and provides information on reverting to standard Android if desired.
The seven things you should know before switching to GrapheneOS:
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Compatibility: Currently only supported on Google Pixel devices (Pixel 3 or newer) due to their strong hardware-based security features.
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App compatibility: Most apps are compatible, but some may require alternatives. A sandboxed version of Google Play can be installed for popular apps.
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User interface: Similar to standard Android, but with enhanced privacy controls and a decluttered, ad-free experience.
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Regular updates: Frequent security updates are provided to protect against the latest threats.
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Community support: A dedicated community of users and developers is available to offer help and tips.
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Reversibility: It's possible to switch back to standard Android if you don't like GrapheneOS.
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Privacy and security features: Includes end-to-end encryption, revocable permissions, randomized MAC addresses, and strict app data access controls.
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