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In a rare moment, the orange site asks where the emperor's clothes are (news.ycombinator.com)
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Perhaps there will be some quality sneers, perhaps not. But in this moment the orange site becomes sentient and asks if the emperor is really wearing clothes

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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 38 points 3 months ago (2 children)

From the comments:

However, they claim that the workers will use that time for leisure instead of working harder, what they term as "productivity leakage".

lmao OH NO leisure time for the fuckin plebes!

I mean I think the commenter has a similar opinion about it, to be fair, but jesus fucking Christ...

Life isn't supposed to be min/maxing like a fucking video game! It's not a video game, it's real people's lives, and they deserve more of that life with the people they love instead of being forced into cubicles and into a lonely, alienated life.

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 30 points 3 months ago

Literally the same shit as during the war against work from home.

Hey look, they are more productive, get their work done faster, don't have to spend 10% of their life commuting, and have more freedom. OUTRAGEOUS!

(Only this time there's no actual productivity boost, but they're still preemptively mad?)

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Another thing from the comments

Now non-technical people with ideas can start prototyping and raise money

Didn't people use to say stuff like this about HTML? (Also paper prototyping exists, and I would also think that for almost all interesting ideas you actually need to have a technical person up front to know if a thing is even technically possible/viable (Wait, looking at the computation requirements of LLMs and the hype about that, im taking that last statement back ;) )).

The people discussing a random asspulled number to make a point as actually important is also very HN.

[–] dashdsrdash@awful.systems 14 points 3 months ago

The history of technology teaches us that every non-trivial problem -- and a large fraction of trivial problems -- require specification beyond the bounds of conversational language.

Greek geometers may have invented the idea of formalizing language with specific definitions, and inventing new symbols to represent special meanings. When important consequences accrue from getting things wrong, people develop jargon: knitters and sailors and shepherds and farmers; engineers and lawyers and plumbers. If you want to convey your knowledge and intentions, you can't chat informally and expect a human to really understand what you want.

For about a century now we've had devices that turn instructions into actions. Everyone who uses these becomes an expert in the particular form of instructions that the device needs, or else they don't get what they want.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 25 points 3 months ago (2 children)

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[–] fasterandworse@awful.systems 13 points 3 months ago

wonder how many of these people were part of the 2010s new atheists groups on reddit mocking christians for the same defense style

[–] sue_me_please@awful.systems 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Didn't even survive for an hour lol

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 19 points 3 months ago (2 children)

GPT-4o got a whole lot closer to realism though- I’d say we’re better than Skyrim’s pre recorded speech system at this point.

Wow, better than a game released in 2011...

[–] istewart@awful.systems 19 points 3 months ago

I used to be a serious systems programmer like you once, then I took a prompt injection in the knee

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

With notoriously bad writing...

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 11 points 3 months ago

Picking Skyrim when Morrowind is right there was quite a choice. (Which could be more complex just because it didn't need to have each line be spoken, was fun in Oblivion where iirc the messed up the voice actors once, for a few lines it was a different person).

[–] self@awful.systems 18 points 3 months ago

and in true orange site form, it’s currently being flagged to death

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Why am I wet? Where are my PANTS?

--OpenAI investors, Q4 2025

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[–] aaaaace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 months ago

I'm waiting to see which AI get paid so they can buy things that are produced more efficiently.