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[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 41 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is a debate between the parties of war and Wall Street who agree with each other on the fundamentals of our economy and on the fundamentals of our foreign policy

Jill’s solution to “endless war” is to disband NATO, stop supporting Ukraine, and hand Kyiv to Putin. With NATO disbanded, further European countries will be sure to follow.

[–] Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win 28 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Putin's Jizz Stein also wants Nato disbanded, the US to give up their SC veto, and revoke weapons to help Ukraine defend itself while simultaneously forcing 'peace' (subjugation) negotiations with russia.

For those of you that don't understand how the Electoral College works, voting for her means donald will be president. Have fun wasting your time reading the article.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Reported for misinformation, but I'm not seeing a problem here.

Wants NATO disbanded? Give up the Security Council vote?

https://www.jillstein2024.com/peace_platform

https://www.isidewith.com/candidates/jill-stein/policies/foreign-policy/nato

Unsupport Ukraine?

https://www.isidewith.com/candidates/jill-stein/policies/foreign-policy/ukraine

Pretty much everything you'd expect from a Putin backed candidate.

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[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No one cares about the opinions of a Putin supporting Republican shill.

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[–] LifeGivesYouLemmys@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (26 children)

198 Posts

1.24K Comments

Joined 1 month

Source: https://lemmy.ml/u/UniversalMonk@lemmy.world

If it took only 10 seconds to post each time, and 20 seconds to make a comment, that means you have spent:

(198 * 10) + (1240 * 20) = 26780 seconds

Or, 7.44 hours, in one month. That's almost 5% the amount of time people spend working full time. Almost a full work day. And these are extremely generous estimates that assume you are very fast. I have no doubt you have spent minutes responding to some of the comments calling you out.

A more realistic set of numbers would be

(198 * 30) + (1240 * 45) = 61740 seconds

Or, 17.15 hours, in one month. That's almost 43% the amount of time people spend working full time. Over 2 full work days.

To calculate the number of times you submitted content per waking hour:

(198 + 1240) / (16 * 30) = 3

Or once every 20 minutes on average, assuming you sleep. Almost every single one promoting third party candidates. Totally and completely not sus, at all. Not even a little bit.

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[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

She's trying so damn hard to get Trump elected lmao.

Almost as hard as OP is, whatever his name is this week.

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[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 13 points 1 month ago (11 children)

It's a fine take and I mean, I'd love to have the option to vote for that alternative, but realistically right now, none of us do. No matter which side of the aisle you're on, if you abandon the side you'd normally vote for to vote third party, you're only helping your own personal worst case scenario.

Really, all of these third party... parties should be focusing more on pushing for an alternate voting system. I know they say we should get away from two-party politics, but I rarely see any actual action taken to try and accomplish that. Ranked-choice was on the ballot 4 years ago in MA, but didn't pass, and if these third parties had poured their campaign budget into getting it passed, they'd be getting my vote in November. As it stands, they won't be. Their policies, frankly, don't matter, because we can't vote for them, as much as we'd like to, without voting against our own self-interests and really, those of the entire country.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Any third party that only focuses on the presidency isn't a real party. Jill Stein isn't actually running for president. She is simply a foreign agent of Putin trying to act as a spoiler against the Democratic ticket. That is literally the only reason she is running.

Real political parties try to build power from the ground up. You want your party to be a serious candidate for president? Try winning several hundred state house seats and least a few dozen US house seats, maybe a Senator or two. I disagree vehemently with the Libertarian Party, but I'll give them credit for being a real political party. Clowns like Stein, Kennedy, and West are just Republican agents running as spoiler candidates. They have zero intention of winning. Their only goal is to appeal to their own vanity and to syphon off a few percentage points from the Democratic candidate. That is the only reason they are running. They take Republican and Russian money and are doing the bidding of their masters. Anyone who even considered voting for them is a fool.

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[–] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml -5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

abandon the side you’d normally vote for

That's part of the liberal delusion we would not vote for a democrat or Republican, because we are not Democrats or Republicans. They do not represent the needs of the marginalized, the working class, They only represent the needs and the wants of the donor class. They only listen to the donor class While our needs get ignored.

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[–] Mpeach45@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Bet she also “urges” withdrawing support from Ukraine.

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