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In short:

Facebook is scraping the public data of all Australian adults on the platform, it has acknowledged in an inquiry.

The company does not offer Australians an opt out option like it does in the EU, because it has not been required to do so under privacy law.

What's next?

Facebook representatives could not say whether an opt-out option would be offered to Australians in the future.

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[–] nifty@lemmy.world 39 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It’s probably not just adults

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ms Claybaugh added that accounts of people under 18 were not scraped, but when asked by Senator Sheldon whether public photos of his own children on his account would be scraped, Ms Claybaugh acknowledged they would.

The Facebook representative could not answer whether the company scraped data from previous years of users who were now adults, but were under 18 when they created their accounts.

Welp

[–] jettrscga@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The Facebook representative could not answer whether...

This guy's terrible at his job. Even I can answer that one.

Abso-fucking-lutely yes.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

the job doesn't involve telling the truth

[–] Paradachshund@lemmy.today 31 points 1 month ago (1 children)

My opinion is that if your data or work is within an AI training set you should be given free access to any tools using that data. That's only fair considering these companies also think everything should be free for them to take.

[–] EddoWagt@feddit.nl 31 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I think you should be able to get all of your data in any dataset or tool deleted whenever you ask them to. Not possible? That's their problem not yours, should've thought of that before collecting all information known to man

[–] Paradachshund@lemmy.today 7 points 1 month ago

I definitely agree with this too

[–] where_am_i@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, it already exists in the EU

[–] EddoWagt@feddit.nl 2 points 1 month ago

Well yeah, but I still can't delete my data from ai models

[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 month ago

Well that's fun

I'm not Australian, and I don't post on Facebook.

But my family posts on Facebook, including pictures of me. I hate that I didn't consent to any of this, yet they've fed my face into their AI tools.

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean, the data was public. Literally anyone could scrape it

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

I read this in Trump’s debate voice.

[–] obbeel@lemmy.eco.br 4 points 1 month ago

I appreciate the honesty.

[–] _edge@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes, but they are all up-side down.

[–] kablammy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

That's ok, so is the population distribution.

[–] auzy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Jokes on them. Facebook in Australia is an absolute cesspool.

And nobody from Facebook is doing anything with the reports

So, the only application for this data is to build a bot which acts like an asshole and make photos of cars which assholes own.

[–] texasspacejoey@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

How much you wanna bet the didn't just stop at the adult accounts

[–] dutchkimble@lemy.lol -4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So stuff people post publicly should be private?

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If I post a picture on my private profile that only my friends can see, yes, that should be private.

[–] dutchkimble@lemy.lol 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah but what if you post public stuff for the public to see? That’s what’s in question here I believe

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The post says everything, which would include the private.

[–] Womble@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Facebook admits to scraping every Australian adult user's public photos and posts

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

You're right. I misremembered.

[–] dutchkimble@lemy.lol 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It does say public, but I guess it's a confusing article. In any case, I'm all for privacy and not defending social media at all, just that if someone else chooses to not be private then they shouldn't be unhappy if it's actually not private is what I meant.

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

You're right, I had misremembered the phrasing. I just hate that the current state of affairs is everything you put online is going into model training. I feel everything should be opt in. If a company wants to profit off of my stuff, they should have to ask, even if it's hosted there, especially since when these social media sites first came about, the idea of training data models with user information wasn't a thing.

I'd begrudgingly accept a cutoff where anything prior to a date where terms were explicitly set to include language for data modeling was excluded. It's really dumb that the advent of new technologies just allows companies to profit of anyone's creations with permission.