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fuck the manosphere (lemmy.world)
submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by kofe@lemmy.world to c/casualconversation@lemmy.world
 

I just want to vent a bit - I started seeing someone a few weeks ago. Old fling that I ran into through some friends that got rekindled, and I was excited that it seemed like more than just casual hookups this time. But there were some yellow flags I ignored that turned out to be red flags, and now I'm feeling frustrated and hurt.

Dude for real dropped the line that men are more "capable" and "logical" on me. That gender studies are "indoctrination." I told him we should probably stop seeing each other if that's really what he thinks. It wouldn't be logical for me to keep seeing someone that thinks lesser of me, now, would it?

I'm grateful to have some guy friends that I turned to after I left, cuz I wanted to go into "fuck all men" mode, but I know it's not true or helpful. Just like there are women out there that have internalized misogyny, there's feminist men, enbies, etc. We're all just people and we're not monoliths beholden to differences in biology. This is just sexist, manosphere bullshit in particular

Anyway. I'm still feeling angry and wanted to put it out there for some support and solidarity. Anyone have a recent win they'd like to share or something?

ETA: Thank you so much for the conversation y'all! I've been trying to keep up but I gotta get some sleep. I'll check in later but hope everyone has a good day. Keep up the empowerment! πŸ’œ

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[–] toothpaste_sandwich@feddit.nl 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What a total dick. I'm sorry that happened to you and I completely understand how you feel.

[–] McKay@feddit.de 0 points 8 months ago

Let me correct my self: Such men usually think the same about other men

[–] McKay@feddit.de 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If it helps anything, I can imagine men usually assume they are as an individual more logical and capable than other men as well. Projecting this on women is just even easier as other man will agree.

https://xkcd.com/610

[–] kofe@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yes! I had noticed he was being a dick to his roommate at one point, who's our mutual friend. Really caught me off guard. Fucked up product of how men can be socialized in sexist societies. I just feel bad for everyone in that dynamic, even the guys putting others down, cuz they think it'll help them get their needs met but it just shoots them in the foot. And of course victims don't deserve that treatment to begin with. We should be lifting each other up, validating that we're all capable and logical

[–] McKay@feddit.de 0 points 8 months ago

Or at least, we are all capable of being incapable and illogical. We are all just human after all.