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Idk if anyone had a similar problem before, but I live in EU by the countryside, at first there were only a few but now it happens more and more often to see drones passing over my house, I am sure they are civilian drones because law enforcement has no reason to use them since the area is quiet (and honestly I doubt they would be able to do so), however it bothers me enough to know that there are people who get over the fence and enter my property going to look at what they want, does anyone have any advice on what to do?

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[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 22 points 3 months ago (7 children)

This works if they fly low enough

[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.world 21 points 3 months ago

Police drones. Surveillance "for your protection"

Fuck them!

[–] HaleHirsute@infosec.pub 8 points 3 months ago

That some dystopian shit!

[–] Woht24@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Portsmouth Ohio, fat redneck throwing a bottle of shit Australian beer and the police not executing a no knock warrant and murdering him for his crimes?

I call bullshit.

[–] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 months ago

He's white, it's okay.

[–] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 4 points 3 months ago

That photo is real but that caption isn't.

That was taken in Australia with one of our better beers front and centre

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

That guy deserves an award

I never understood anti drug drones. You'd think criminals would just go inside or get a pavilion

[–] Titou@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago

You can also use an anti-drone gun

[–] doofy77@aussie.zone 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Didn't know they drank great northern piss in Ohio.

[–] TassieTosser@aussie.zone 3 points 3 months ago

They don't. They're a QLD couple that got in trouble for being absolute legends and knocking down their neighbour's drone.

[–] Hugh_Jeggs@lemm.ee 16 points 3 months ago

Get yourself a little beehive OP.

Every time you see a drone, report it for killing your bees, sit back and watch the EU busybodies go fuckin mental about it

The cunt who's doing it will be in The Hague within a week 😂

[–] ben_dover@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago

there's a software package floating around to hijack drones and remote control them yourself. it might be time to test the drone's security capabilities

[–] Nooodel@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Drone pilot from Germany here, they have no place hovering over your property, more strictly even they're not allowed to fly in any way that allows them to view your garden from above. You can shoot down the drone and it's their problem note that this is in Germany not the US (which surprised me tbh).

However, that said, could be that it's the same pilot again and again, even if it's different birds. Normally they are very cooperative, just ask them to stop and they'll apologize for any inconvenience caused.

[–] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Since op didn't mention seeing a pilot, I'd suspect that the drones are flown out of sight. So asking them to stop can be difficult. Of course asking nicely, by downing a drone, might get the message across.

I wonder if I could shoot down drones here in Denmark as well.

[–] tabloid@feddit.de 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Flying out of sight only underlines the illegality of the act. In Germany you need to keep relatively near to your drone and technically need to be able to fly by sight only (so can't stand in a building/car and then not see your drone).

[–] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Same in DK, and my comment was meant to underline that. If you see a drone and no operator is around, then something is definitely wrong.

I mean, years ago, I had a DJI Phantom 2 Vision+ drift away, on account of my own inexperience and stupidity. This was right when it had just come out, and way before drone licenses and laws forbidding drone flights in populated areas. So no laws were broken; and it was done with no malicious intent... But these days?

Not even the DK police, who have some very well-trained drone operators, can fly their drones out of sight.

Seeing a drone with no operator once? Something might have gone wrong, let's not judge too harshly, but seeing a drone with no operator regularly? On your property? If you have a hunting permit, a shotgun, and a clear shot, then it might be a good time to practice your anti air skills.

[–] hakobo@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

FAA Certified drone pilot in the USA here. That's wild. In the US it's illegal to shoot down an aircraft of any sort no matter the type or who is flying it. And also, the Federal Aviation Administration is the only authority in the US when it comes to airspace, and as long as you have authorization from the FAA or are in uncontrolled space, you can fly over anyone's property. However, that doesn't give you the right to voyeurism or harassment. If you are intentionally spying on things that are normally considered private (peeking in a window, for instance) or repeatedly or specifically bugging a specific individual or family, then you can still be charged with those crimes. Also, unless you have a specific waiver that's rather hard to get, you have to be within line of sight of your drone. If the drone pilot is not following the rules, they can be hit with hefty fines. Even though drones can be bought easily, there's still strict rules that the FAA has for both recreational and professional flying, and anyone operating a drone outside those can and should be reported.

[–] norimee@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (3 children)

FAA Certified drone pilot in the USA here. That's wild. In the US it's illegal to shoot down an aircraft of any sort

That's even wilder to me, since you have several states where you are allowed to shoot anyone trespassing on your property, but a drone, who can record and video and infringe on your privacy is illegal?!

That's like prime capitalism. Human lives are worthless, but don't damage my property. What?

[–] mrcleanup@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

It's all about property rights here. You can always just make more people, right?

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[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago

Honestly they should get a good video of the drone and report it. If the police do nothing sent it to the community

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[–] justme@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 months ago

Just looked it up for Germany: over residential areas you need either "an explicit permission of the owner", or "it is very light (<250g) and has no ability to record video, audio or radio" or "it is more then 100m above ground, not in the night and some other fingerprint" [1].

In all EU you actually need a registration on your some clearly visible [2].

So, of they are below 100m or in the night, just call the authorities. If you live a bit outside it might just not clear from above that it's private property.

[1] https://dipul.de/homepage/en/information/geographical-zones/legal-basis/#accordion-1-6 [2] https://www.easa.europa.eu/en/light/topics/travelling-drones

[–] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (6 children)

I think you have the legal right to prohibit flying above your property. Do it, make a sign and report everyone who violates it to the police. Flying on someone's property with a camera drone is illegal anyways.

EDIT: Also check if you legally can physically eliminate the drone in that case. It's the most effective strategy.

[–] diykeyboards@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (4 children)

OP is in EU, but here in the US property owners do not have rights to airspace.

However, spying with cameras or nuisance noise would be reasons for legal action.

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[–] ByteWelder@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

That’s incorrect. At least as a generalization. For example: In The Netherlands, you do not own the airspace above your property. The EU laws for drones do state that you can’t just film people without permission, though. Operators of camera drones also need to register and get an operator id.

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[–] Mammothmothman@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Are you legally allowed to own a shotgun?

[–] BleatingZombie@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Don't shoot down drones. In the US it counts as shooting down an aircraft and you'll have the FAA knocking at your door

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

I'd be very surprised if that were true for ones not registered with the FAA.

[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 2 points 3 months ago

OP stated this was in europe. Out of the FAA's jurisdiction. The EASA may have similar rules though

[–] isolatedscotch@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 3 months ago

commercial drones must have by law a remote ID, think of it like a unique number for each drone, so you might want to try using some phone apps like DroneTag to get that ID and then report it to the authorities. They will have a record of who that drone belongs to.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Apparently, old-fashioned spark radios can disrupt comms for consumer drones. There are kits for people who are interested in learning about early radio tech.

I've not verified this myself.

[–] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 5 points 3 months ago (5 children)

causing RF interference on purpose is definitely illegal wherever this person lives

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Which means finding a personal purpose for using the spark radio, that way it remains a side-effect.

Might me time for some electrical experiments.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

That only works so many times before the authorities can see through the ruse unfortunately.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 months ago

What about mistakingly

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[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

How is it trespassing? How far up do you "own" ? 5m , 200m, 1000km?

On the other hand, get a another drone and play chasey wott theirs, maybe and some talons to yours and swoop, eagle style ?

[–] glasgitarrewelt@feddit.de 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

E.g. in germany it is not allowed to fly over private property with a drone (equipped with a camera), no matter the height. You have to stay above offical streets. And maximum flight hight is 120 m, if I remember correctly.

I guess it's EU law, so it should be simmilar in other EU countries.

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Next CIA satellite over my house, I will legally shoot down with mu pulse laser !

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[–] LeLachs@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago

Here is a great defcon talk that might give you some ideas: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CzURm7OpAA

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