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We propose the symbol ⁂ to represent the fediverse.

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[–] halm@leminal.space 150 points 3 months ago (6 children)

There already is a symbol for the fediverse:

This has existed for years already, is used widely, and IMHO looks way better than this dull attempt. I see no good argument in the campaign website for using this new one instead.

[–] Cube6392@beehaw.org 19 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The weak argument they make is this doesn't look good at small sizes. Personally I don't think that constitutes a good enough reason to rebrand the fediverse

[–] Tippon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I commented on the last post about this, the three stars are difficult to make out on a small screen, they look like a blurry capital A. On top of that, it's apparently used in astronomy to represent clusters of stars, like a constellation.

The whole point of this campaign appears to be to replace a unique symbol with one that's already in use and is hard to read at small sizes 🤷🏻‍♂️

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[–] halm@leminal.space 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Exactly. A logo isn't meant to work at 11 point size in the middle of inline text. The typographical argument is nonsense, and I think this proposal is really a reaction to the idiotic "Satanic panic" over the rainbow pentacle.

[–] Cube6392@beehaw.org 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah which if that's the argument we're having... I kinda don't want to give people that dumb any influence. The fediverse symbol is not a pentagram and if the rainbow giving gay people visibility is somehow wrong, then... Fuck me I guess because I'd rather make gay people comfortable than a bunch of folks who've fallen down some manner of christofascist rabbit hole

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[–] uis@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

It is not pentacle, it is 10-colored 5-node complete graph.

For people who didn't study in school entire life is filled with magic.

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[–] smeg@feddit.uk 75 points 3 months ago (3 children)

As several people have already pointed out on the other thread, we already have a well-established fediverse logo: Fediverse

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[–] Tenthrow@lemmy.world 58 points 3 months ago (1 children)

3 cat buttholes. I love it.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] astro_ray@piefed.social 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] BlucifersVeinyAnus@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 months ago

It’s buttholes all the way down

Looks like 5 to me

[–] Machefi@lemm.ee 39 points 3 months ago (2 children)

About the current "pentagram" symbol:

However, its design is a little too complex to be used at small sizes, as you would in text or in a button. It’s also only available in image form, not as a typographical character.

We've used it as a tiny icon below posts from other instances and I've never found it problematic. I think it's already too well established to replace just because we can't type it. Besides, the three stars feel to me not distinct enough. Pushing Unicode Consortium to add it to the standard when the time comes is a batter way.

I do think however that it would be worth coming up with a proper name for the current symbol.

[–] sanguinepar@lemmy.world 30 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I do think however that it would be worth coming up with a proper name for the current symbol.

The Fedigram maybe?

[–] halm@leminal.space 8 points 3 months ago

What else!? 🏅

[–] Kuinox@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Instead of changing the symbol, we can ask the unicode committee to put the current fediverse symbol in the unicode.

[–] Machefi@lemm.ee 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Kuinox@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I shouldn't comment just after waking up.

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[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech 28 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Note that if supported by the font you use, the three symbols will usually be drawn the same way as an asterisk (*) in that font. This means a lot of variation.

Your browser's rendering: */⁂

Several typefaces' rendering of Unicode U+2042 ASTERISM:

I think the diversity is alright! It's like the Fediverse: instances follow a standard to work with each other but can be heavily customized without breaking integration.

[–] fossphi@lemm.ee 16 points 3 months ago (2 children)

One of them is not like the others.

What the fuck is Lust Text?

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

A surprisingly serious typeface from Adobe Fonts.

IMO, the most egregious one is Essay Text.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago
[–] davel@lemmy.ml 27 points 3 months ago (1 children)

TIL this is an asterism, but I’m moreso enjoying the word dinkus right now.

[–] uis@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago

You have rare condition of asterism. You need to check your dinkus.

Dude, it’s less clear than the existing symbol. Stop trying to push this.

[–] maegul@lemmy.ml 21 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I appreciate the argument, but I feel like there's too much of a chance that we can do better with something in unicode. Or, that this isn't really good enough. Three asterisks is just too meh, IMO, to catch on.

⁂ ... to me right now just looks like a splodge on the screen.

Somewhat unfortunately, the pentagram in the older icon probably can't really be used without some cartoon-ification, because reasons.

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[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago

Behold, the Trihole

[–] Zier@fedia.io 16 points 3 months ago

So 3 footnotes? A bunch of snowflakes (which we are not)? Just, NO! Find something unique and original, that's how branding works.

[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] zip@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 3 months ago

Wow. I had forgotten all about that! I wonder if I could still triforce...

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)
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[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 3 months ago

Let our motto be:

Anus together strong.

[–] vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Is it like that because we’re a bunch of snowflakes?

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

My first thought.

[–] AhismaMiasma@lemm.ee 12 points 3 months ago

It looks like a bunch of snowflakes or a trip of buttholes.

No thanks.

[–] Malgas@beehaw.org 12 points 3 months ago
[–] N0x0n@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

The icon created by meta gives me shivers...

I know why you did it so fast and why you choose ⁂, it's already present and works as expected and probably to overcome meta's implication into the fediverse...

However, every symbol didn't exist at first and became popular on it's own because it defended something people found important and fought for (Like the peace symbol)!

Maybe create our own symbol and let it make enough noise so it becomes it's own symbol?

Sorry if it isn't clear what I mean by that :/

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[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 12 points 3 months ago

I think the current logo would work fine as a unicode character. I dislike the three anuses for a logo.

[–] subignition@fedia.io 10 points 3 months ago

I appreciate the dunk on Threads, I wasn't aware of that icon. How audacious.

[–] ademir@lemmy.eco.br 10 points 3 months ago
[–] Xylight@lemdro.id 9 points 3 months ago

It looks like the state farm logo to me in small text.

[–] johannesvanderwhales@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

Or we could use a combination of letters, sometimes referred to as a word, to represent it.

[–] rimu@piefed.social 7 points 3 months ago

I quite like how *some* of the arms of the stars touch but not all. The older pentagram gives the impression that everything can connect to everything which has been hard to live up to.

But the ship has sailed and the pentagram has become well established.

[–] astrsk@fedia.io 5 points 3 months ago

An asterism! Very cool and Unicode standard! I’m on board.

[–] uis@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago (6 children)

Three disconnected centralized serevrs? Ok.

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