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[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 41 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (15 children)

Your choice doesn't affect Gaza. That power lies with Israel and their next election.

For the rest of the world though, it will.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 21 points 3 months ago (12 children)

Unconditional political and material support for the genocide from the US is the only reason Israel is able to continue doing it. Period.

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[–] ReeSilva@bolha.forum 15 points 3 months ago (4 children)

What? Do u really think USA doesn't have the power to demand Israel to stop attacking?

[–] SaltyIceteaMaker@lemmy.ml 24 points 3 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

No. they mean, no matter who you vote, the us won't do jackshit

Edit: punctuation for better readability

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 14 points 3 months ago

Like saltyiceteamaker said, US won't do jackshit about what Netanyahu doing regardless on who you vote, and even if they don't give them money, highly unlikely Netanyahu will just stop doing what he's doing.

However, for other issue within US or the one affect the world, it have different impact between this two. US is one of the biggest CO2 emission country, and also the world exporter of methane, for example.

[–] BallsandBayonets@lemmings.world 4 points 3 months ago

Are you aware that the only way Israel is waging their war with guns and bombs is because of the US selling them the weapons? I'm sure Israel would still want to commit genocide without them but would find it much harder to do with literal sticks and stones.

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[–] linkhidalgogato@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago (13 children)

israhell has been committing this genocide for almost a century unless someone willing to abolish isntreal is on its next vallot i dont see how ir***ls next election could change anything, certainly no previous election put a stop to the genocide.

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[–] dsilverz@thelemmy.club 23 points 3 months ago

As a Brazilian, I can unfortunately relate to the exact same scenario...

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Trump will turn Gaza to ruble!

Gaza:

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 4 points 3 months ago

Jared Kushner: Let's make the west bank into a resort

[–] LordGimp@lemm.ee 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Needs the "we care ❤️ 🌈" flag on the right side in the rubble somewhere

[–] BallsandBayonets@lemmings.world 9 points 3 months ago

That was painted on the side of the missiles sold to the genociders.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 months ago (42 children)

Oh look, someone trying to push Trump on us. Bless your heart, you just think we're all idiots here.

No, they're not the same. None of us are buying it.

[–] GetOffMyLan@programming.dev 18 points 3 months ago

I don't think they're pushing trump. More saying Gaza is fucked regardless.

[–] minnix@lemux.minnix.dev 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Why is it so common that people assume if you don't like one candidate that automatically makes you a proponent of the other? Is it not possible for you to conceive that both candidates may be power-hungry human garbage?

[–] BallsandBayonets@lemmings.world 6 points 3 months ago

They're centrists, scared centrists, who recognize that political in-fighting can result in a split vote letting the party with less votes take the election. However in addition to being humongous pricks about it (helping the in-fighting), they fail to recognize two very obvious facts:

  1. Progressives don't have a candidate. In any party. You can't split the vote if there's no other option to split the vote with.
  2. The popular vote doesn't matter. Hasn't mattered since the Republican party stole the election in 2000 (if it ever mattered in the first place). There's somewhere between 3-6 states where the popular vote, if you trust it to be recorded and reported accurately, can swing the election one way or another. In the other 44 states, the popular vote does. Not. Matter.
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[–] Hupf 9 points 3 months ago
[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 8 points 3 months ago

The war machine stops for no one.

[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)
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[–] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 6 points 3 months ago

I like my politics like I like my wrestling, kayfabe

[–] StormWalker@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 months ago

There is a lot of truth in this picture. 2 sides, both shit for humanity. It's a big problem really.. Divide and conquer tactic.. proven tactic.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Ever wonder why these are our only two choice?

Why 3rd parties can't run without spoiling the election?

Consider watching a video on First Past the Post voting to find out why the spoilere effect exists.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Why 3rd parties can’t run without spoiling the election?

They can and they are. People who don't vote third parties are voting for OPs picture; whether they think they're being smart by "playing the game" or not.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/04/23/cornel-west-focusing-gaza-has-harsh-critiques-opponents-former-allies/

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[–] lengau@midwest.social 3 points 3 months ago (5 children)

So what do you suggest we do about it?

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Work towards passing state level electoral reform in your state. Once more then two parties can be viable, competition will force the legacy political parties to actually attempt to represent people.

I doubt they'd be able to make that pivot. Representation in exchange for votes is a purity test neither will pass IMO.

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