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[–] chiisana@lemmy.chiisana.net 76 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Looks like a case where poorly sourced article getting removed, with invitation to repost with a more reputable source... so do so with a better source. Or is the underlying article itself leaning too much towards propaganda that there is no more reputable source? and if that is the case, then is it really !news worthy?

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 42 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Nah, it won't happen because that user is infamous for posting disinformation on this site. He pretends to be a liberal doing this for the benefit of the Lemmiverse, however that logic works out.

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 35 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You can tell from the post title. There's a collection of little propagandists that do nothing other than post disinformation, immediately lash out at any slightly differing opinions, and then go whining in other communities if any mod takes any action about it.

[–] macgyver@federation.red 5 points 3 weeks ago

Good ole Yogthos

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[–] n2burns@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 weeks ago

And to be honest, I'm not a fan of sources reporting on themselves. Even if I considered this a reputable source (I have no opinion on it either way), I would want a third-party article.

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[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 52 points 3 weeks ago (18 children)

I can't help but notice that Five singles out "lack of transparency" while ignoring "poor sourcing" and "one-sided reporting". This is a common tactic.

Any responsible journalistic entity should be confirming their sources, and giving any accused a chance to give their own side of a story.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 9 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

responsible journalistic entity

Where do you find those?

[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's true they're getting very hard to find these days. I was very disappointed that even NBC the other day, reporting on the House investigation into Biden, had the gall to simply say that "the White House has not yet had a chance to comment".

There's a small handful of good ones still, though, depending on the niche you're looking for. ProPublica is still an example of responsible journalism for instance.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 9 points 3 weeks ago

I'll check out ProPublica, thanks

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 5 points 3 weeks ago

Check the farm... I think that's where all of them went to.

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[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 48 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (8 children)

Looks more like you posted a garbage source?

edit - for example. Do you consider Fox News to report a balanced view? Or GBNews? Zerohedge?

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Thecradle seems like a fine source, even MBFC doesn't actually have arguments against it other than "left leaning".

"Balanced" is some bullshit American view of media that isn't related to factuallity.

[–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 55 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

For what it's worth, English Wikipedia editors reached a consensus to deprecate (ban) it for unrealiability last year: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_424#RFC:_The_Cradle

The following notes are present:

The Cradle is an online magazine focusing on West Asia/Middle East-related topics. It was deprecated in the 2024 RfC due to a history of publishing conspiracy theories and wide referencing of other deprecated sources while doing so. Editors consider The Cradle to have a poor reputation for fact-checking.

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[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Here at News Inc we offer only the most balanced views. After the break, our main story on why there are two sides to the Mai Lai Massacre, then we analyse the benefits of burning puppies for fuel.

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[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 41 points 3 weeks ago

A poorly sourced article from @jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.world ?? No way, I'm shocked!

[–] gigachad@sh.itjust.works 39 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

"Siding with Marc Zuckerberg" is a pretty shitty argument. They may be evil but that doesn't mean I oppose every single of their opinion.

I know MBFC is a controversial tool, but there must be some kind of moderation, otherwise you end up like !worldnews@lemmy.ml

[–] Iceblade02@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Oh !worldnews@lemmy.ml does have moderation. The mods there are very deliberate in the things they do(n't) allow. Woe betide you if you ever criticize certain historic (or current) authoritarian genocidal regimes.

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[–] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 13 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
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[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

This is not just a Lemmy problem, as the same thing exists in Reddit, too, but crowd-sourced news sites like these are so problematic at their core that it got me to buy a news subscription to NYT. No, it is not news that JD Vance told his kid to "shut the hell up".

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