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Trump rally: In battleground Pennsylvania, Trump tries to counter Harris’ surge | AP News (apnews.com)
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[–] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 92 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

Robert A. Bridy, 64, a laborer from Shamokin, Pennsylvania, traveled to the rally to show support for Trump. He said the election feels tight in this state and added that his union and a close friend are trying to convince him to vote for Harris and other Democrats, but he has voted for Trump since 2016.

“It’s close. You can’t change Democrats’ minds no matter what. They’ve got a one-track mind, and that’s it,” he said.

Bridy called Trump a “working class guy like us.” Trump is a billionaire who built his fortune in real estate.

“He’s a fighter,” Bridy said. “I’d like to see the closed borders. He doesn’t mess around. He goes at it right away and takes care of business the way it should be.”

The brain washing that's been done to these people is truly something else.

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 33 points 3 weeks ago

This actually tells you how to convince these people to vote for you. Hint: they don't care about policies.

Remember when trump said "Take the guns first, then worry about it later"? That's what these people like: action. The Democrats should just act and force the Supreme Court to stop them.

Declare all student loans forgiven and let the Republicans deal with the fallout. Negotiate more than 20 drug prices, for all Americans immediately. Direct the FTC to investigate food price collusion. This shit literally grows on trees and you can buy fresh food directly from farmers for almost nothing. Moving it a few hours away to a city should not jack up the price substantially.

[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 32 points 3 weeks ago

That person is literally too stupid to vote in his own best interest.

[–] dogsnest@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

No need to worry!

It's only ~50% of the people you transact with!

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You mean 22%?

Rump got 74 million votes in 2020, which is 22% of the US total population of 330M.

[–] dogsnest@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I mean of people who were arsed to vote!

And there's ZERO reason to argue that it's not reflective of the general population.

And it's ONE THIRD of the eligible voters (c.250M?). As are the Dems. One third doesn't vote!

Why the pedantry?

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 weeks ago

Because pretty much all Republicans vote. 22% represents their entire voting base.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Because there’s also no reason to believe that the 40% who didn’t vote support anyone over a specific candidate.

Most likely, they just don’t care and don’t support either party.

[–] JimmyMcGill@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They were more than happy to have a very reasonable chance of having Trump in the office by choosing not to vote.

Not as bad as voting for him but still not a great excuse.

There’s also no reason to believe that 100% of those people would not vote for Trump. What is most likely is that the proposition would be roughly similar, maybe a bit lower

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world -1 points 3 weeks ago

There’s also no reason to believe that 100% of those people would not vote for Trump. What is most likely is that the proposition would be roughly similar, maybe a bit lower

You have no basis for that belief.

That’s the point I’m trying to make clear: you don’t know why they didn’t vote.

What is clear is that they didn’t vote. Which you’re… basically arguing doesn’t suggest apathy.

In short we have no idea why they didn’t vote. Only that they didn’t vote; and that implies at least some apathy.

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Why the pedantry?

You're misunderstanding my point. Don't accidentally overrepresent and legitimize the Fascist Right by assuming that because 47% of people who voted wanted Trump, that 47% of the entire US wanted Trump. In reality US voter turn out is consistently dogshit and the huge political right-wing hubbub is driven by <20% of the actual population, who also somehow claim there's some "silent majority" supporting them. (there's not; those who don't vote either don't care or are intentionally suppressed/disenfranchised by, you guess it, the same fascist right!)

They must be painted as the weird, fringe crazy pots that they are. There is no helping that camp.

[–] eee@lemm.ee 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

“It’s close. You can’t change Democrats’ minds no matter what. They’ve got a one-track mind, and that’s it,” he said.

Bridy called Trump a “working class guy like us.”

Am I reading The Onion or what?!

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They truly live in a completely different world then the rest of the... well, world.

"The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command."

[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 weeks ago

The Republicans started with that command though. They’ve been denying facts for _ decades_.

[–] kylie_kraft@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

They really do just grow on the underside of rocks, don't they?

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Pennsyltucky is a real place. And too damn close to me.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They've had some support but they mainly did it to themselves.

[–] dyathinkhesaurus@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

They did all their own research

[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 2 points 3 weeks ago

This Man knows what he's talking about! Trump, the Strong Man who told Republicans to KILL a PERFECT Border Bill, DOESN'T mess around when it comes to Protecting Our Border!