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[–] alquicksilver@lemmy.world 73 points 3 months ago (5 children)

I always thought some men's irrational fear of menstrual products to be weird. It's really bizarre that this is such a big deal for the trumpies.

It's a tampon, not a snake. It's not going to bite you.

[–] PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works 25 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It is weird but some - especially those in very fundamentalist religious sects - genuinely believe it makes a woman unclean and she should have to keep away from society and be shunned every month.

Yes it’s fucking stupid, but the Bible has some really weird rules.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

These people don't follow the Bible. The Bible is so ass backwards that it contradicts itself. There's only one mention in the Bible about abortion, and it's a "how to". The Bible mentions gays one time but mentions shellfish like 46 times. It's disjointed af.

[–] PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago

I don’t disagree, I’m merely stating that some interpret it differently.

[–] Fisk400@feddit.nu 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Some men just hate that women have bodily functions but in this case its because they believe that tampons have sexual undertones because it involves insertion. For a long time in England, only married women were allowed to buy them and I can only assume that there were similar rules in The US.

[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

As prudish as America is, I’ve never heard that before. Not saying it’s not the case though.

[–] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Lol it's not a thing. I have no idea what lemmy people go on about sometimes.

[–] Fisk400@feddit.nu 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

https://www.ahpma.co.uk/menstruation_facts_and_figures/

  • Until as late as the 1950’s, every packet of tampons had to carry the warning ‘Not suitable for unmarried women’ for fear that virginity might be impaired, which was of course untrue. To this day however, in predominately Catholic countries, sales of pads are notably higher than tampons.

Fucking Lemmy people making me do research.

An additional source that I am unable to find is Jo Brand on an episode of QI talking about stores refusing to sell tampons to unmarried women.

[–] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I guess I don't know much about the Uk or other countries, I'm just speaking for my experience in the US.

[–] Fisk400@feddit.nu 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

But you you did know enough to be smug about it, apparently. These crazy Lemmy people saying such silly things.

[–] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I'm not saying it never happened, just that it isn't a thing anymore, not in any mainstream sense. Obviously there are small communities or whatever. There always are, but they are not representative of any significant group of people and can't be pointed to as an example of some kind. This is the kind of thing lemmy/reddit does all the time that gets really annoying. It's low effort circle jerking, and people just eat it up because it makes them feel superior.

[–] Fisk400@feddit.nu 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Did you miss the part where Catholic and conservative countries still uses tampons less than other countries. The main issue is that they think it

A. Increase masturbation because it requires the girl to familiarize themselves with their own genitals

And

B. Breaks the hymen and makes the girl no longer a virgin.

These are things that conservatives absolutely still care about and if you read r/twoXchromosomes you will eventually see women with conservative parents having to snuggle their tampons into the house.

Also, why are conservatives losing their minds over Tim Walz providing tampons to schools if what I am saying isn't a thing anymore?

Like a presidential candidate once said, things dont just fall out of coconut trees. They are influenced by what was before.

[–] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The tampon thing is about requiring schools to put them in the boys bathrooms, which is a totally different thing. But also my response is about my experience in the US.

[–] Fisk400@feddit.nu 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Lots of experience being a far right conservative in America?

[–] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

How do you define far right? I'd guess most of the people around me would be considered far right by lemmy standards, and I'm not aware of any of them being concerned about tampons. But maybe I just don't know about the real far right.

[–] Fisk400@feddit.nu 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No, I just think you are stupid and not very curious about why people hold the opinions they hold. Common problem with republicans.

[–] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Let me just point out that being hostile to people who challenge your preconceived notions is not a sign of great intelligence.

[–] Fisk400@feddit.nu 1 points 3 months ago
[–] ShareMySims@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So you went from asserting a thing doesn't happen, to admitting you're talking out of your ass, to doubling down again on a subject you've just said you know nothing about? Talk about clowns on the internet lmao

[–] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

That one hit a little close to home?

[–] 5C5C5C@programming.dev 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It is absolutely a thing among conservative circles. I've known young women whose own mothers scared them away from using tampons because they said it would break the hymen and then you could no longer prove you're a virgin (or some claim that you truly aren't a virgin anymore, as though you can lose your virginity to a tampon) so then you'll be considered unclean and no decent man will want you anymore.

It's gobsmackingly stupid but it is very very real.

[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It’s definitely “a thing” in the US, but the comment I replied to said only married women were “allowed” to buy them. I took that to mean allowed by law.

Maybe that was too much of an assumption.

Regardless, we’re talking about power structures denying bodily autonomy to women which, I think we can agree, is fucking disgusting.

[–] Fisk400@feddit.nu 4 points 3 months ago

It was not legally enforced but it was socially enforced trough stores refusing to sell them to you and mothers calling you a whore if they find them in your room.

https://feddit.nu/comment/9831035

This source is paired with multiple posts on r/XYchromosomes where their mothers associates tampons with being sexually active and an anecdote from Jo Brand on QI where she casually talks about having to use disgusting rags because the store would not sell her tampons.

[–] echolalia@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I’m in my late 30s. My public school warned against tampons and told us we should ask our mothers before we use them because it could damage our hymens. Wait until you’re older they said. It was highschool.

They were vague about it but it was a school health class. Rural America.

So yes it was a thing for me. Hopefully schools have updated.

[–] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Wasn't my experience, but I will take your word for it. I'd heard of it of course, but always in a vague, third-hand kind of way, or like it used to be a thing when they first came out. Caveat: I'm a guy. But that said I'm surrounded by very conservative and religious people and my wife is from an even more conservative part of the country, and the tampon thing was never an issue. She says she never even heard about that, and the only thing related to tampons she remembers was about risk of toxic shock if you leave them in too long.

[–] Glide@lemmy.ca 15 points 3 months ago

As long as we're talking about hetereosexual "weirdness", can we discuss the desire to gag and be disgusted on seeing another man naked? It's not fucking gross. It's not fucking anything. Seeing another man's member is like seeing their arm: if they're particularly jacked, you're a little impressed, maybe envious, and otherwise "oh look, a body part". This whole fabricated need to act disgusted out of what I can only assume is fear that your lack of reaction could be misunderstood as interest is fucking weird.

[–] 5ibelius9insterberg 3 points 3 months ago

Uh uh uh ! snaps fingers Idea to troll those weird man: Just tape (unused) tampons to the underside of your toilet seat.

[–] Monument@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 3 months ago

It may not be a snake, but it might come back to bite you.

[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 40 points 3 months ago

They’re really gonna take the bait, huh?

Not only is “No u” a bad retort in any situation, but following up with plans about legal placement of tampons and mandatory genital inspections is not gonna convince anyone you’re the reasonable one.

Maybe by 2028, they’ll realize this is a doomed strategy and keep their hate to themselves. They’ll still be bigots, but the least they could do is be bigots in private.

[–] TipRing@lemmy.world 33 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Conservatives typically call LGBT people much worse things than "weird".

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 39 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah but calling conservatives Nazis or fascists doesn't hurt them because that's what they are and they're proud of it.

Calling them weird really gets under their skin somehow.

[–] vividspecter@lemm.ee 16 points 3 months ago

Calling them weird really gets under their skin somehow.

It's because it makes them seem pathetic and not scary. They get off from being seen as dangerous, but really can't handle being made fun of as it reveals them for what they truly are.

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 28 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Its funny cuz queer was the original word for weird. So in a way, they're queer but not proud

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 19 points 3 months ago

Hmm… those who support queer vs those who support weird.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago

That's a fight I'm willing to take.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Could my life please stop being a political issue‽ I have shit going on in my life

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

I'm just trying to make rent, bro. My sexuality is secondary to that. "Yeah but that's the part we're concerned about!" .... But why?

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

TEXT PRIDE TO 70785

Why are ads and campaigns like this? Is there something I'd get that I couldn't get from a website, beside "my phone number potentially leaked and used for robocalls"?

[–] AltheaHunter@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They're like that because they want your phone number for robocalls.

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I thought Pride was mainly by and for people of the generation that would rather disable the "call" function of their phones entirely, and "give us your phone number and we'll tell you who we are" is very much the opposite of how they want organizations to interact with them.

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Standing up for the rights of all people should be a winning issue for Democrats. Trans people should not be an exception to that.

I think in the past Democrats were to reluctant to fight on social issues, such as abortion. And I think the inability to push back on Republicans on these social issues cost Democrats elections. Democrats are finally fighting for a women's right to an abortion in a bold way and stating loudly that abortion is women's health care.

I'm weird. Being weird is good. Calling fascists weird is such an effective strategy because it shatters their fragile egos. They are unable to see themselves as anything other than their fictional concept of 'normal'. So the attack will not work in reverse, as it's not going to bother anyone besides the fascists. As long Democrats continue to fight for everyone's rights they will dominate Republicans on social issues in polling and elections. edit: typo

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"I'm not like them!" Yeah ya are, you're weird af. Weirder even. I may be into some weird stuff, but I don't try to dictate what a child does with their parts. That's REALLY fuckin weird.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Dems are crazy hair fun clothes weird. Gop is "marry kids" weird.

[–] Mediocre_Bard@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

I thought that thumbnail said "ANAL" at first.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 3 months ago

“He’s very heavy into transgender,” Donald Trump said on Fox and Friends last week. “Anything transgender he thinks is great.”

I think trans people are great too.

“He signed a bill – he wants tampons in boys’ bathrooms,” Trump said on Wednesday in Raleigh. “I don’t think so.” One day later, in New Jersey, Trump returned to the theme: “He wants tampons in boys’ bathrooms. It’s terrible.”

Have you considered that maybe shoving a tampon up your ass would mean you didn't need to wear an adult-diaper?