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[–] i_am_not_a_robot@feddit.uk 69 points 2 months ago (4 children)

2024 is invisible, the current trend being that you aren't allowed to see anything you can scroll until you hover over it.

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 49 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I dislike this trend of invisible UI. I'm (usually) on a 4k screen, I've got plenty of room for it, it's not the early 2000s anymore; stop hiding the fuckin scroll bar or video progress bar

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think most people are on laptops now. Blows my mind but yeah.

My comparison is that screen size is like desk size. A laptop being those tiny pull out side desks at college, and a monitor being a desk. I was massively downvoted for that. People like their small screens.

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

I get a poked fun at a little bit on mechanical keyboard communities for preferring a full-size (I gotta type IP's, need a numpad!).

I don't think I could work solely on a laptop without external peripherals, it's just not a good experience (also giant hands and chiclet keys is not a good combo). My work laptop exists permanently folded closed connected to a dock.

I'd put the analogy as trying to cook a multi-course meal in a saucepan on a single burner vs a full stovetop and set of pans (also you only have a paring knife).

[–] rand_alpha19@moist.catsweat.com 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not to be "that keyboard guy," but you can still have a full numpad on a smaller keyboard using a separate layer that's triggered by a key being pressed or held.

I know because I've done it - the keys are all grouped into the same orientation, they're just not labelled. It's an adjustment, but it's worth it to me for the extra desk space.

I get that that's not really an attractive option for some though.

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I tried a TKL and a numpad for a while, but it just wasn't comfortable for me for some reason. Not a fan of layering, just doesn't come to me naturally

[–] rand_alpha19@moist.catsweat.com 2 points 2 months ago

Oof. I've been using a 60% split ortho for so long that I forgot some people consider TKL a compromise so they can have a smaller keyboard.

Not trying to change your habits, just pointing out that adapting is very easy in case you wanted to look into it!

[–] asexualchangeling@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

My first real PC game was Civ 2 where I used the numpad to move, with the corners being for diagonals. and yeah, I don't even really need it 90% of the time, but not having the numpad just feels wrong to me (though yes I still do play Civ 2 from time to time)

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

A few games use it for flight as well

[–] i_am_not_a_robot@feddit.uk 2 points 2 months ago

The Amiga 600 was criticised for not having a numpad. I don't think much needed it except DPaint (but that was a bit of very popular software).

[–] HEXN3T@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 months ago

I like the trend of invisible UI. It keeps the display free of clutter and persistent UI elements (hello, OLED) and doesn't hinder usability at all. I hide scroll bars whenever possible because middle clicking is far more convenient than click-dragging. Hidden elements always appear by using a related action--moving the mouse reveals the play bar, scrolling reveals the scroll bar. It's completely intuitive. I even remove the forward, backward and reload buttons on my browser because gestures and shortcuts are just faster.

UIs are near-universally as clean and functional as ever.. at least on macOS. Windows appears to be a clusterfuck. Linux is alright.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

And you're not allowed to see how much is left to scroll. Company decide everything for you. You just keep doing the income needful.

[–] DoctorButts@kbin.melroy.org 2 points 2 months ago

Hell yeah. Also fuck thin scroll bars.

[–] xenoclast@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Only scroll after watching an ad

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 51 points 2 months ago (2 children)

2001-09: textured so pointer can grip better

[–] swag_money@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

i hate when my pointer slips off >:(

[–] don@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago

lol just dip ur kerser in ruber u n00b

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Sliders peaked in 1998

Wasn't the same after John Rhys-Davies left.

[–] ThePantser@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Really wasn't the same once Jerry left and we got his less talented brother.

[–] LiamMayfair@lemmy.sdf.org 21 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] Pechente 20 points 2 months ago

Seriously 90s Windows design is actually pretty good in my opinion. Does a great job conveying functionality through shadows and highlights.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

No way. It needs that grippy part so your cursor doesn't slide off.

[–] Fuzzy_Red_Panda@lemm.ee 19 points 2 months ago (2 children)

2006 was peak computing. Computers, mp3 players, tons of other gadgets. It was when technology was still fun.

[–] sirboozebum@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago

Before social media and the tech giants enshittenified the internet.

[–] primrosepathspeedrun@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

it could be again, you know. more so, even.

[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Looks to me like the cycle is about to come back around to the textured scroll bar, and I am so here for it

[–] DmMacniel 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Huh? 2001 and 2006 are the same (luna blue, luna silver)

[–] lugal@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 months ago

I enjoy how you could put the 2012 design between 1988 and 1998 and it would hardly look out of place.

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago

Look ma! I'm in the pic!!

[–] tacofox@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago

When you're finished palying that please take a look at these slides

[–] ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

I recently got into eso again. Some of the lore can be a bit questionable, but it's a fun game with some nice lore bits. I'm also glad that TES VI has not been released yet, I only recently finished my formal education and that game might have interfered.

[–] lath@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

How long have you been off Windows? It's already at VII. Or VIII, I can't tell.