Oh, I see the problem.
It's Windows 10.
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Could be worse.
Could be 11.
Ah, it seems like a race to the bottom.
But I can't disagree with you there.
Windows with copilot?
Yes, that's Windows 11
My Debian linux system hangs on shutdown about a third of the time. It's fun.
Woah, watch out, the Linux lemmy users don't allow negative Linux posts. Thoughts and prayers for your family.
I'll miss them when I'm in a gulag guarded by armed penguins.
Well ackshually I use OpenRC. You soystemd users and your stop jobs. I want my system to crash whenever I shut it down. no mercy /j
Mine does that too. It's usually only for around 20 seconds, so it doesn't really bother me.
Mine is still hung when come back the next day. I'll spend some time figuring it out eventually.
RIP if you leave a Windows VM turned on and it does an update.
Oh God....I'm about to setup my work laptop with mint and a windows vm...what's the problem???
If the Windows VM stays on, then it will take an extra 5 minutes to shut down (after 5 minutes, the VM will force shutdown)
If you shut down the VM first, then you're fine.
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Ubuntu sometimes does this to me, because of either some Snap thing or some CUPS thing.
and outlook
My work Mac refuses to restart until I force close my IDE.
Holy shit. I just remembered using windows and I think im going to be sick.
systemd-shutdown[1]: Waiting for process: ...
shutdown && exit
KDE: Broadcast message from user@hostname on pts/1 (Date and Time): The system will shutdown in 60 seconds.
Just yank the power cable. If it gets corrupted just blame windows and switch to symbian os.
Instructions unclear, battery power activated.
Damn, it's a laptop. 
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At work I use windows, at home I use Linux. They both have their annoyances. Linux more because of availability of apps natively running. And windows more because windows is painful to use as a power user.
I also use Linux at home and am forced to use Windows at work. I disagree with Linux being more annoying, I've fully embraced the mindset that open source/Linux supported software is the only software that exists and I haven't had any issues since I switched years ago.
Of course if you really really need some specific software for some niche that doesn't have a perfect open source equivalent that's a harder pill to swallow for some.
I'm much happier on Linux, my windows work PC is nothing but a pain to use.
I'm still a relative noob with Linux and I find stuff "breaks" more on Linux ('breaks' as in does something I don't want it to), nursing and it can take me a while to fix those things because I'm still learning. It takes a while in part because I want to actually understand what's going wrong (and how to fix it), rather than just doing the thing.
With Windows, when it's doing something I don't want it to, it's usually a much more straightforward troubleshooting process because often, it's a problem I can't solve. The stuff I can change is quicker because I have more experience with Windows, but overall, the experience is much more frustrating because of all the stuff I need to tolerate. It makes it feel like my computer isn't my own.
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i wonder what kinds of terrible and awful things are being done in the implementation of explorer.exe. i cant think of any filebrowsing task so performance heavy that it would interrupt a shutdown or cause any kind of noticeable delay when opening a new window.
Keep in mind explorer.exe is not just the file manager, but also the entire desktop itself.
The desktop, task bar, start menu, Alt-Tab switcher, and a bunch of other stuff are in Explorer.exe. It's the second app that starts when you log in, after userinit.exe.
Caching is the only reasonable answer, but even that shouldn't be as bad as explorer.exe
If you just say yes and reboot it'll open back up all your open emails and drafts. I do the same for word.
Excel does not do that. Boo.
I hate that. Why would I want it to open 2 blank emails that only have my signatue in it? Just put it in drafts, I will empty those out in 6 months time. Same for word. I don't need to look at the guide from yesterday I didn't even edit I want a blank document please.
Nah. It's super good. When your comp resets unexpectedly due to updates, all of the docs you were working on open back up. Extra important when a reset happens friday and you come in on monday. Even if the doc you were working on is located on an external drive that you're not currently connected to.
For anyone that says to follow what IT tells me and to shut down all programs and the comp at end of day: no. That's what sleep is for.
Really? For me, Excel would try to open drafts even if I didn't change anything.
That's one thing Microsoft can't do: give us a check box that says "always do this" on some of the shut down hangs. My audio drive does it here and there...not enough of an issue to go mess with it. Still, my computer will patiently wait for me to click the damn button.
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"shut down anyway"...assuming you've saved your work in whatever apps that needs to happen in.
shutdown -s -f -t 0
Why is it that long when shutdown -p -f works great?
Nice, didnt know about /p. Always used /s with 0 sec of delay
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That's what the power switch is for
Unplug it from the wall
My laptop is laughing in good battery health.
My laptop refuses to suspend when I close it...my battery is crying
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