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[–] nowitsabby@lemmy.blahaj.zone 108 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Where do you think 40k got it

[–] pyrflie@lemm.ee 39 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

It's like they haven't studied history or read any 40K.

Wait Catholics; nevermind. They didn't read the room with Luther, and he was friendly.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (3 children)
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[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 79 points 2 months ago (10 children)

I went to the capuchin crypt in Italy.

Spoiler; had nothing to do with monkeys

[–] Lifebandit666@feddit.uk 23 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I went to a crypt in Britain as a kid, can't remember where tf it was, but I still remember it because it was super interesting.

It's where I learned about Trepanning and how they did it back in olden times to "let the bad spirits out" and it actually worked because it reduced swelling around the brain by giving the blood a way out.

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[–] pyrflie@lemm.ee 14 points 2 months ago

What do you think the Imperium was modeled after?

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)

capucin- prefix comes from the Latin for "hood," and by synecdoche means "monks" (who wear hoods)

Cafe Cappuccino has the same roots.

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[–] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, that one is definitely a sight to see, if you can stand looking at dead people's bones.

[–] FozzyOsbourne@lemm.ee 12 points 2 months ago

if you can stand looking at dead people's bones

I much prefer it to looking at alive people's bones

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I'm fine with them. I went through that whole catacomb and then went through the others.

They have a lot of bony vaults and tunnels and catacombs in Italy.

And whatever church has the wooden fragments of Christ's cross.

I saw those too.

They look like wood fragments.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

At one point, there were probably enough cross fragments going around to build a house with.

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[–] Theme@lemmy.blahaj.zone 59 points 2 months ago (2 children)

"Hey, who turned out the lights?"

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 20 points 2 months ago

In a helmet, suit and everything, holy shit.

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[–] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 53 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

I bet it isn't really Magdalene.

[–] pyrflie@lemm.ee 28 points 2 months ago

Considering Catholic practices only the stupidest adherents would. You betcha they pulled a bitch Roman Catholics hated out of Syria to enshrine in Rome 50 years after the fact; during a civil war.

[–] TheRaven@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Chances are, it isn’t. The early Catholic Church did a lot of this kind of thing, where they would claim to have a piece of the cross, or a bone of St Peter in a church. It was just to drive tourism into their churches. If you took all the claimed pieces of the cross and assembled them, it would make far more than one cross.

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[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 45 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The alleged skull of Mary Magdalene.

[–] merari42@lemmy.world 39 points 2 months ago (7 children)

I like Martin Luther's polemic about relics: "How many pieces of the true cross are there in the world? How many thorns from Christ's crown of thorns? How many nails from the crucifixion? There are enough nails to shoe all the horses in Saxony. And if all the relics of the saints were gathered together, there would be enough bones to build a ship and enough wood to boil all the water in the sea."

In that sense it's one of Mary Magdalene's many heads.

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[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 37 points 2 months ago (4 children)

You shall make no idols to yourselves; and you shall not set up for yourselves graven images, or a memorial pillar. And you shall not set up any image of stone in your land in order to bow down to it. For I am Jehovah your God.

He went pretty ape shit about the golden cow—as believable any part of that story goes. Catholics seem to be all about idoloc knick-knacks and getting all stabby and controlling over them... Like, the opposite of what a Christian is meant to do.

[–] Technus@lemmy.zip 51 points 2 months ago (3 children)

That's one of the fundamental disagreements between Catholics and Protestants.

A Catholic would argue that veneration of saints isn't worship, it's showing respect for someone who exemplified Christian ideals, or died as a martyr. Canonization is basically the religious version of the Medal of Honor.

A Protestant would argue that the distinction between veneration and worship is arbitrary, and veneration of a saint essentially amounts to idolatry anyway.

[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

As an apostate, I don't really see a difference, but it feels inconsistent to see people praying to a specific Saint all the time. Are they supposed to be the middle man between you and God? Didn't Jesus die specifically for that?

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[–] pyrflie@lemm.ee 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

When Luther brought that up it started a global trade/religious war that last over 100 years.

Ideas are a life and death matter since people are willing to kill over them. Never underestimate the religious, they are as dangerous as they are stupid.

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[–] mholiv@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I’m a secular person now but as a formally very religious person I know a bad Bible translation when I see it.

Assuming you a referring to Leviticus 26:1 a better translation from the NIV is:

Do not make idols or set up an image or a sacred stone for yourselves, and do not place a carved stone in your land to bow down before it. I am the LORD your God.

Given this I can see how Catholics can justify having statues and art and the like.

In case you don’t like the NIV here is a meta comparison.

https://biblehub.com/leviticus/26-1.htm

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[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 36 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.world 42 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Skulls for the skull throne...

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago (4 children)

That Jesus guy sure is a bloodthirsty one.

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[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 35 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 34 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sure it is. Let's just pretend there is no monetary incentive for a region to have a holy relic which brings them a bunch of tourism. Ain't nothing holy under capitalism.

[–] TurtleJoe@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Every single consecrated Catholic altar contains a relic of a saint. Usually they're pretty small, maybe a piece of a fingerbone or something. You're right that a good one like this would bring in lots of pilgrims (tourist dollars,) but it's a tradition that way predates capitalism.

I'm not in the business of defending the Catholic Church or capitalism, just wanted to clarify.

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[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world 33 points 2 months ago

Hideo Kojima: Hmmm

[–] ProvableGecko@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago (4 children)

As someone who grew up in a Muslim country, I have to say, Westerners this is some weird shit man. Like, call the police weird. We are supposed to be the barbarians yet you get to have skull thrones and shit? WTF?

[–] retrospectology@lemmy.world 48 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

All the Abrahamic religions are death cults. It's just as morbid as muslim sects that force women to dress head to toe black robes or w/e. The extremism just becomes part of the scenery when you're around it, but it's all objectively bizzare.

Like think about it, these religions were literally invented by bronze age goat herds who thought the earth was flat and covered by a dome, and people in the modern day still believe in them. It's literally group insanity.

It would be like someone who still believes in the greek gods or something.

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[–] pyrflie@lemm.ee 43 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Dude these sprang from Mesopotamian/Egyptian necropoli. This is a Mediterranean/Middle Eastern tradition springing from Egypt and Summer.

[–] RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 months ago

Religion is heavily intertwined with barbarism. The West/Christian countries have dumped more than their fair share on the world.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The whole point of religion was to keep the psychopaths in control. Sometimes you had to throw them a bone to keep them in line.

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[–] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 30 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Something I always love to add to these sorts of threads:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_Nine_Angles

It expresses the view that the current aeonic civilization is that of the Western world, but it claims that the evolution of this society is threatened by the "Magian/Nazarene" influence of the Judeo-Christian religion, which the Order seeks to combat in order to establish a militaristic new social order, which it calls the "Imperium". According to Order teachings, this is necessary in order for a galactic civilization to form, in which "Aryan" society will colonise the Milky Way.

It's beyond heresy.

[–] creditCrazy@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There's a lot of fantasy settings id like to live in but Warhammer is not one of them especially anything imperium related

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[–] manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 months ago

Lots of child abuse going on related to O9A, theyre evil fucks

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[–] Rayspekt@lemmy.world 28 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Make an animatronic out of it.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Insert a 1 euro coin and the skull will sing your favorite hymn.

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[–] Zozano@lemy.lol 27 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't know how the Christians see this and think anything other than "this is some evil shit".

[–] ThisIsAManWhoKnowsHowToGling@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I don't know how Christians read the Old Testament and think anything other than "This is some evil shit."

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[–] user1234@lemmynsfw.com 26 points 2 months ago

I never realized she was an astronaut. They don't teach you that in Sunday school.

[–] burretploof@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago

That's metal as hell- I mean, heaven!

[–] cows_are_underrated 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The Moment i realised the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me.

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[–] sirico@feddit.uk 10 points 2 months ago

Even in death I still serve

[–] yemmly@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

And I’m supposed to believe people paid good money for a blowie from that face?

Actually, nevermind, I believe it.

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