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[–] Z3k3@lemmy.world 148 points 1 month ago (3 children)

That's cool games thar require anti cheat measures or have sports are generally speaking games I'm not interested in as a rule.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 150 points 1 month ago (4 children)

"We need kernel access to prevent cheaters from ruining our game" is the dating equivalent to a guy asking for your phone password on the first date.

[–] Z3k3@lemmy.world 53 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's not even that. I have zero interest in multilayer games even less so "seasonal" games. Basically all the stuff AAA says is dead I like and all the stuff they say I should like I dislike

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 19 points 1 month ago (4 children)

The season nomenclature is fucking stupid and I hate it. If a game makes its DLC or quarterly updates and calls them "Seasons" I am revolted.

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[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 87 points 1 month ago (8 children)

I love my Steamdeck so much. Been like 2 years now? still rocking every game I want to play.

Playing through ZenlessZoneZero rn which isn't even officially supported in any extent and runs flawlessly! Also it's a real computer that you can do real work on.

[–] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 32 points 1 month ago (4 children)

My Steam Deck has been awesome, money very well spent.

And Valve has made a good chunk of money off me since buying it too lol. I keep getting games specifically for the Deck.

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[–] IndiBrony@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

I've been playing OG PS2 San Andreas. Absolutely loving it ❤️

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[–] cetvrti_magi@lemmy.world 62 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Linux is amazing for games thar don't have anti-cheat and I don't play those games. Saying that Linux gaming isn't ready is just stupid at this point. And for emulation it might be better than Windows.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

wine's backwards compatibility is argued to be better than windows

but yeah. valve sells a linux console ffs

[–] LANIK2000@lemmy.world 50 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Personally haven't encountered a game that wouldn't run, so as far as I'm concerned it runs anything. I'm not going to shed any tears over Fortnite.

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[–] orangeboats@lemmy.world 46 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

The "quit having fun" meme is ironically becoming as cringey as the thing it is originally complaining about.

You will help the community more by telling non-Linux people why Linux gaming is better, and this meme is doing the exact opposite of it -- "oh Linux can't play some games, yada yada. But we are still better! Switch over!" -- like what's the logic of it?

What's the purpose of this meme other than circlejerking?

Disclamer: I am a Linux user myself, started with Debian and is now using Arch Linux.

I will share some advantages I experienced in Linux gaming:

  1. Alt-tabbing old fullscreened games won't mess with my monitor.

  2. The compatibility of Wine when it comes to some older games is wild. SimCity 4 actually crashed less when I played it on Linux.

  3. Better performance across the board. Granted it's just a mere 5% difference but I will take it, why not.

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

Linux's main selling point has become "It's not Windows". That was a boring line five years ago, but Microsoft has eagerly been trying to invent new ways to make their flagship OS worse and worse.

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[–] p5yk0t1km1r4ge@lemmy.world 45 points 1 month ago (3 children)

...who actually says this, because it sounds like pretend anger to me

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

i think it's a joke about how much Linux users talk about Linux to people who don't care but reversed.

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[–] Abnorc@lemm.ee 12 points 1 month ago

That's a good recipe for popular posts anywhere on the internet. Anger gets the clicks.

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[–] laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 39 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Except a lot of anti cheat now supports Linux. Destiny 2 doesn't run on Linux only because Bungie refuses to allow it, their AC supports Linux just fine now

[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

there is also other games that dont run on linux

Roblox (sober works which is a workaround),Fortnite (Tim Sweeney hates linux from what i heard),and more

[–] Laborer3652@reddthat.com 31 points 1 month ago (8 children)

But the steam deck really disproves the notion that Linux can't run these games. The companies that make them choose not to support Linux, and in that way its not really Linux's fault that the games don't work.

[–] laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 month ago

Exactly this, the community has proven it will put the effort to make it work, and a lot of things that don't still are because the companies resist it intentionally

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[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 35 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Are there people telling linux folks to stop enjoying linux gaming...? I say ask as a linux person

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (7 children)

I doubt that literally is a significant concern.

When I can't join others is when I hear confusion as to why I use GNU+Linux, and disappointment when I refuse to use Windows to play a certain game.

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[–] grandkaiser@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Nah. It's just projection. Even though I use Linux myself, it's nearly always the other way around with the lecturer trying to tell Windows users to switch to Linux while the average gamers are just happily gaming away on what works for them.

Hell, you could take many of the comments in this post and turn them into things the guy on the left is saying while Windows gamers are having fun.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Maybe I'm vain, but I posted a post a couple days ago celebrating my success with Linux gaming. So many games are like here.

You know it's not ready for VR yet. yeah I played VR for about a month 4 years ago and that was enough.

You can't play games with anti cheat personally I don't play many of those, but obviously if you do that will play into your decision

Anyway, people are always negative about everything, especially against things other people like

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[–] BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I know this won't work for everyone, but I just quit playing games that don't work or even from publishers that do shitty things and there's still plenty of games out there. There's a lot of shovelware out there, but there's also a lot of good stuff out there.

[–] noobdoomguy8658 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I think it's worth advocating for quitting shitty games, though.

Out of many friends I've had who (used to) frequent games like PUBG, Dota 2, League of Legends, Valorant, Overwatch, etc., most were just having a bad time, all the time. Granted, some of these work on Linux, but the point is, those of my friends that still play Overwatch ("2", lol) just seem to be happier and more functional when they have to quit for some period of time.

I've been having a much better time with my life once I went for the good old enjoyment rather than chasing rank or wins or skill, finally making time to play amazing single-player titles again or just screwing around in online games.

And curiously enough, the online games I actually want to play and have fun doing so are the ones that work on Linux, while the rest thankfully refuses!

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[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Average Linux user when you tell them you actually like using Windows.

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[–] RogueSensei@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Can't play league on linux

Actually a good thing

[–] somenonewho 25 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I've been gaming on Linux exclusively since 2016.

DXVK was an amazing improvement. Steam play makes everything so much easier. And the Steamdeck was a revelation.

I don't like to play games with other people anyways so Anti-Cheat is no issue for me.

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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I've switched for over a month now and did had problems with 2 games out of the 6 I tried so far (all of which were both games installed via Lutris and I found solutions to fix them both).

Funnily enough one of the games I got via Steam which did not work before in Windows now works in Linux. Further, I was running Windows 7 (yeah, I know it was a bad idea security wise), so there are AAA games whose minimum Windows version is 10 which I now can play in Linux that I couldn't before in the Windows I was using.

All in all it has been great and I have no intention whatsoever to go back to Windows.

Even if there are games that won't work in Linux, there are so many good games out there that can entertain me for hundreds of hours that I won't miss the handful I cannot get to run in Linux.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I have a couple games that were Windows 98 and Windows XP games that don’t work on Windows 10/11, but work just fine on Linux. It’s funny that Linux is sometimes better at running Windows games than Windows is.

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[–] fafferlicious@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (10 children)

I dunno. I'll probably get hate for this, but it's not ready. It's better. But Linux isn't a good replacement for Windows yet. I love Linux. Love the customization, the *NIX filesystem makes sense, and it's beautiful. Also no ads in my start menu!

I want to use Linux regularly, and I tried last week. It failed. Kind of miserably.

I need to pick a distro. Mint and Pop_OS were consensus recommendations.

Try mint: Installing dual boot alongside windows was beautiful. But no internet connection, says cable is unplugged (it's not). Realize I downloaded an earlier version (20). Get the most recent version, and problem resolved. It's kind of odd to me that even a pretty recent version wouldn't support my adapter, but whatever. I tried to update and install Nvidia drivers: update fails because dependencies were not installed. Okay.... Why not prompt me to install them? Why make me apt-get all the dependencies by hand? I don't expect handholding, but some things should be. If I NEED something as a pre-req for what I'm trying to do, queue it up!

Fuck it. Let me try Pop_OS, instead - that has some gaming chops, right? Dual boot was more challenging to stand up, but it all worked. Nice. Fire up game: get ~20 fps drop compared to windows (108 from 130) with the same settings. I don't want to troubleshoot the performance hit. It should just work. I want a tool not a project.

Never mind if you want HDR support. That seems to vary by distro. Variable refresh rate also seemed to be spotty from what I read in gaming distro recommendations. ALSO, do you need UEFI support? RIP. Enjoy toggling that on and off when you have to jump back and forth between Windows and Linux. Nvidia driver support I chalk up to those arseholes only now starting to open source some things.

And I don't care that you were able to run everything fine. You had a flawless experience: great. Love that for you. I didn't. I'm not a computer novice - I know to Google shit and how to implement it. I remember trying to fuck around with Ubuntu back in 2002.

I'm gonna continue trying to stand up Linux for everyday use because I love Linux and I want to use it, but it's pretty clear that even as someone that wants to use Linux. I've been trying to switch to Linux every few years for decades. It's still far short of being ready for average users.

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[–] NutWrench@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I haven't had any problems running my Steam library under Linux Mint. Older games, like Deus Ex and Giants: Citizen Kabuto I can run directly in Wine.

If I could get Vortex Mod Manager working properly under Linux, I wouldn't need Windows at all.

[–] LMagicalus@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Nexus is running Linux tests for their new mod manager RIGHT NOW. I believe its still limited to Stardew Valley for now while in alpha, but they're making strides here! https://nexus-mods.github.io/NexusMods.App/users/GettingStarted/

[–] Bonje@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You can!

Add Steamtinkerlaunch to your steam proton list with protonup‐qt Then, select it under the force compatibility menu. From there, just click the run vortex mod manager button.

You can also run steamtinkerlaunch standalone, which is what I did for cyberpunk2077, but I feel like I did more manual file moving than I had to.

Edit: can't spell today

[–] MasterNerd@lemm.ee 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (10 children)

To be fair there still is a lot of tinkering involved to get gaming on Linux working properly (unless you're on the steamdeck, but even them you'll have to tinker for anything that's not verified). Switching proton runners, changing launch options, fighting updates. It's definitely more than most people are willing to deal with. For me personally, I've had to stop updating my video drivers because Nvidia 555 causes all Proton games to crash for me.

I enjoy the experience of tinkering and troubleshooting, so I'm okay with all that, but I completely understand why most people wouldn't want to use Linux for gaming.

[–] Womble@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (12 children)

I honestly cant remember the last time I bought a game and it didnt just work with no tinkering on proton. Though I am on AMD not Nvidia which makes things a lot easier.

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[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

deep rock galactic, stardew valley, and minecraft work on linux.

what more could you possibly need?

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[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Its not ready for VR. Thats why my vr headset is collecting dust.

The tech is cool but evidently not worth it to find motivation to go back to win.

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[–] lavafroth@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 month ago

Great! I tend to avoid DRM'd games by buying from GOG. Don't use their launcher, lutris tends to have auto install scripts for games.

[–] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

I run Linux on my gaming machine and it fucking dominates

[–] Rolive@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Steam deck has entered the chat.

[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 11 points 1 month ago (8 children)

Legit Steam Deck has me almost convinced to switch my desktop to Linux

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[–] nexussapphire@lemm.ee 13 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Just switch over, if you like! I want you to feel comfortable with the decision and feel motivated to give it a good shot.

If it's not for you, I understand. Maybe in a few years it'll be a better fit but it's no rush.

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[–] Ibaudia@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Checks ProtonDB

So I'm missing out on Destiny, PUBG, CoD, Siege, Battlefield, and Lost Ark... Yeah I'm totally okay with that personally. There are thousands of other games I'd rather be playing and they all work great.

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[–] NafiTheBear@pawb.social 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm one of the guys on the couch.

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[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 12 points 1 month ago

I would never install a rootkit on my system to play a video game anyway.

[–] coffee_with_cream@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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