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[–] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 42 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

You know, I remember when macOS made fun of Windows Vista's gen1 UAC asking for permission to do anything.

It seems now the turns have tabled.

[–] tyler@programming.dev 11 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Geez Microsoft is so terrible about this. It doesn’t help that certain apps are coded like shit as well. Ubisoft Connect literally asks 3 TIMESEVERY TIME YOU OPEN IT for UAC permissions. Once a week would be absolutely a joy in comparison.

[–] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

That's not a Microsoft problem.... Ubisoft Connect should not need admin permissions to do anything tbh

[–] tyler@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago

Microsoft didn’t provide a way for fine grained control of things. Oftentimes apps need UAC permission for ridiculous stuff that should be available to provide access to once and never again. I’ve written shitty windows apps before and I remember thinking it was dumb then. It’s just even worse now.

[–] Celestus@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago

If you hold down the escape button, it will deny all the UAC requests as they come in. It’s pretty satisfying to watch, actually

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 4 points 1 month ago

Nvidia GeForce Experience asks once you install driver updates but not right away lol. It's gotta think about whether it needs it first I guess. Really ponder whether it should ask. So you gotta wait for it to ask before you walk away to do something else.

[–] Nikls94@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Windows: clicks reboot ah shit I’ve hit reboot instead of shutdown. dies of waiting

MacOS: clicks shutdown “are you sure?” yes “are you reeeeaaallly sure?” yes

[–] AlternateRoute@lemmy.ca 37 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Please no! I shouldn’t need to constantly re-grant permissions unless an app has maybe had a major update where it may warrant review.

I am already annoyed how often iOS asks me am I sure I want an app to run in background etc when that is the point of said app.

[–] thrawn@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Apple needs a toggle for “I’m not a total noob” to disable some of these things. Well, Microsoft does too but for different things.

This will probably be a large net benefit since most users are not, uh, proficient and likely grant permissions a little too often. I guess I’d rather click yes repeatedly if it means depriving some corpo from monetizing user screen content. But if they’re adding it, they may as well make it optional.

[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 month ago

Apple needs a toggle for “I’m not a total noob” to disable some of these things. Well, Microsoft does too but for different things.

It's really getting on my nerves that the big tech corps all assume their users are stupid and they don't even offer advanced menus for the rest of us.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 1 month ago

Android turned off AirGuard permissions and background usage because I didn't open it in a while. Thanks for saving like 1% battery and making me vulnerable to stalkers tracking me with AirTags and Tiles 🤩 Wow, a great trade!

[–] Rexios@lemm.ee 13 points 1 month ago

If this requires admin rights to enable every week this is going to suck major ass for company MDM MacBooks

[–] callmepk@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

As a beta user, they pop up everyday which is extremely annoying….

[–] brotkel@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yeah, seems to have gone from daily to weekly in the latest beta, which will still be annoying, but far less so than it had been lately. I legit thought it was a bug because I shouldn’t need to authorize app permissions on a daily (or even weekly) basis.

[–] skittlebrau@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

This is going to be a bit annoying for those of us who do remote tech support for family members.

[–] sugartits@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Okay Dad, now click allow. The "allow" button. There is a button on your screen that says "allow". Yes, it allows me to vi-- no I can't until you cli-- yes, the window in the middle of the screen, there is a "allow" and "don't allow" button--- the one on the left, the left one, click that. No, you just sent me another blank email. There should be something in the middle of the scr--- yes! That's it! Click that! .... Why did you click "don't allow"?

[–] Snowcano@startrek.website 6 points 1 month ago

I’m tech support for my family and this comment gave me Pre-Tramautic Stress Syndrome.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Fuck that. It'll be hell for people who do remote support for commercial businesses. If they do this, I see companies strongly evaluating switching platforms. This is super user-hostile. This opinion is coming to you from an Apple platform user.

[–] shaggy959500@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

MDMs already allow business to manage security permissions for apps. I don’t see why this would be any different. If the company has an MDM, this change should have no impact on their users. If they don’t have an MDM, they really need to get one, not just for this, but a lot of other security and usability reasons.

This will really suck for users of personal devices, though.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 month ago

the last good os x was snow leopard i said what i said

[–] EtzBetz 4 points 1 month ago

God. As if giving x permissions on first launch and still somehow not having the needed permissions wasn't enough hassle.

[–] fishpen0@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Oh hilarious. I still have to use a display link driver because the laptop can’t drive multiple external displays. It technically is a screen sharing driver. So in order for me to use my monitors I’m going to be constantly re approving my display drivers.

[–] Nogami@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Wonder how this is going to impact remoting-in to my office computer from home.

If it can’t happen I’ll be rethinking having a Mac in my office.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I wish they’d just do what iOS does for apps with location tracking. Every couple months, check in with the user and let them know an App still has access to something, and ask if you want to continue or revoke access.

Sometimes Apple gets a too aggressive with privacy and it hurts the user experience.

[–] abrahambelch@programming.dev -3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

If this happens I'll consider switching back to a Linux machine next time a hardware upgrade is due.

Hope there are some rapid developments in non-Apple ARM Chips by then :')