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[–] SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.works 34 points 1 month ago

Ohio has come for us all!

[–] Tugboater203@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I'm from New England, and as far as I'm concerned, Dixie starts at the George Washington Bridge.

[–] RebekahWSD@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

My NJ ass will fight to the death to not be included in Dixie, thanks!

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago

Central Maryland would like out of Dixie too, the rest of Maryland is coming with us but those fucks would prefer to be in Dixie

[–] klemptor@startrek.website 4 points 1 month ago

Same here, and we're scrappy

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

I lived in Connecticut and Swabia, Germany. I consider Pennsylvania south and Frankfurt north

[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

And west of Framingham is the Midwest.

[–] CodexArcanum@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Now do "the South" stretching up into southern Ohio.

[–] kersploosh@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And west through Idaho and into Oregon.

[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

From my perspective, it's all Texas with a smattering of corn.

[–] Beacon@fedia.io 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'd like to see a heat map of where people say the midwest is.

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 39 points 1 month ago (5 children)
[–] jqubed@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It’s interesting to see some out of Pennsylvania identifying themselves as Midwest, but having driven up I-79 there’s definitely a portion of northwest Pennsylvania that geographically feels “Midwest” to me. In fact I think I could argue (and anger many people in the process) that Buffalo, NY is a Midwest city geographically based on its proximity to Lake Erie. I’d never considered it before, but it feels like regions of US states touching a Great Lake automatically makes them part of the Midwest, except for Lake Ontario for some reason. Maybe it’s the proximity of the mountains in New York.

[–] ech@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

Pittsburgh is an amalgamation of East Coast and Midwest.

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

ah yes the north east, perfect for the "mid west" descriptor

[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

When early settlers traveled west they hit the Rockies and decided that was as far as they felt like going in horse and buggy, so they called it "the West" even though it was fully within the east half of the continent.

Believe me, you are not the first person to be bothered by the fact that, from east to west, the four regions of the US are "east coast", "Midwest", "central", and "west"

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 week ago

Worse, the old old West was the Appalachians.

[–] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The new world is sometimes referred to as the west and that is the middle of the continent so I guess by that logic No Mexico would be the Mid-West

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

the actual answer is because the area pictured was west of the original colonies but I didn't want to ruin my joke

[–] Hildegarde@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

the actual actual answer is that people east of the mississippi river haven't looked at a map since 1803.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 month ago

The idea 3% of Minnesota and Iowa thinks they aren't midwest is funny to me.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 week ago

So then what are Idaho and Montana (and Utah)? Great Basin is the closest I can think of and I'm pretty sure Montana isn't totally in it.

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

It's the middle of the west, so basically Nevada, Idaho and Utah.

I've always hated this term not making any sense (and fuck "it [the east] was west like 3 trillion years ago when nobody could walk west because of an invisible wall") so you can't change my mind.

[–] SmoothLiquidation@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

When Seattle is in the Midwest but Austin isn’t.

[–] faltryka@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I had a conversation with someone recently about what the Midwest was. I live in Kansas and always just assumed that must mean Kansas because it doesn’t really get any more… mid… and we’re west of where the US started defining things at.

But apparently everyone seems to also think they’re Midwest and has all sorts of reasoning. It would be interesting to see a map of what different regions self identified as.

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I've seen surveys like this before! Some are pretty funny.

Found one:

[–] GluWu@lemm.ee 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Has the Midwest discussed ditching Ohio and adopting Oklahoma?

[–] ReputedlyDeplorable@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They should, the “Midwest” seems to stretch too far east. Should claim Colorado and Wyoming too.

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Colorado, Wyoming, Montana, and Idaho are "Rocky Mountain West" but hardly anyone seems to remember that term. No one living west of I25 is part of the Mid-West. They all belong to a differently named Geo-Graphic group.

[–] faltryka@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I’ve always thought the demarcation line should be the Mississippi River. In my head anything east of that is… well… east, not Midwest…

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You can try to get rid of us but we all know we're the real Midwest!

[–] Lexam@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

You're the bastard step child of New England!

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

That's just the mid, not the midwest

[–] chocosoldier@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

itt people trying to logic out a definition from an english word as if it's meant to be anally descriptive jargon and not a colloquial term with tons of historical context

[–] crawancon@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago

I just thought it was everything in between east of the continental divide /rockies and west of the Mississippi river. pretty clear map that way.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I'm curious about Midwest California, and non-Midwest Vermont.

The rest of it seems legit, at least if you talk to people from the mixed states.

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

Dammit, now I gotta grow corn and never see a tree again.

!is that isn't what the midwest is actually like, please don't ruin it for me!<

[–] lightscription@lemmy.world -4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

still also 300 miles from the boarder of Canada (DHS boarder control)

pretty much everywhere in the US is homogeneous unless you go to Territories or HI and even then very interchangeable

Why would costal not be Midwest? There are international cities in the interior with a lot of country of origin diversity.

And rural is not that different from megalopolis (LA, Chicago, Seattle, etc). It's all subdivided into manageable small segments for effortless social control. The scale difference is not really categorical. You can feel just as isolated in a small town as a big city; still connect to the world via the internet and a library in a small town; get groupthink in a multicultural city; be a liberal in the countryside. . .

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

I can't figure out if you're serious. Lol.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It's weird you think Hawaii is is more distinct than, like, Louisiana, or inland Alaska.

[–] lightscription@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Never been to Alaska. Since you are Canadian, I wager, you might know more about Alaska. But I suspect the entire North American continent is fundamentally interchangeable and I have been pretty much every state. Same power structure. Same labeling system. The subconscious "flags" will start going off. Probably the same in Europe or anywhere in the world these days unless you are someplace like Papua New Guinea. The NWO is no lie.

The American South is unpleasant in many ways. But anywhere might be nice if you are showering everyone in your extravagant displays of opulence for limitless durations.

The redder states aren't going to be much better than the blue, but all people anywhere care about is money, which makes matters difficult when looking for a heart of gold. (I always say me and mine will pick out the color of our leer jet and which private island after I know she loves me for who I am as a person and not as an objectified, prodigious bank account. The gold digging. Know what I mean?)

New Orleans looks nice, but nowhere is good unless you are rich.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh, well sure, if any contact with American culture makes a place the same, then almost everywhere is the same. Definitely Hawaii. Hawaii is basically a big tourist resort for Americans at this point.

As for money and status-seeking, that's as old as agriculture, as is people who don't money and status suffering.

[–] lightscription@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Yep. But as a student of history around the world, it certainly used to be possible to travel to a new place. Imagine Persia for the Greeks or China for Marco Polo. The journey wasn't impossible and the destination was completely different. That was true to some extent even in the US. The homogeneity of today is just staggering. Same bullshit everywhere and no variations really on the overplayed theme.