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[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 91 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I love how this will gain traction, but when we talk about banning the Dutch guy who literally fucked a child, everyone is like, "But they can change..."

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 48 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm all for banning the dutch guy.

also all for booing the dutch guy until he refuses to show his face again.

[–] mercano@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In some ways I feel bad for his volleyball partner, whose only other choice would have been to walk away from the Olympics.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

I did. Then he opened his mouth.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

yes the offenses are disproportionate, but the problem with doping is it directly undermines the integrity of the sport. same with gambling.

[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (3 children)

How many kids do you get to diddle before you undermine the sport?

[–] Crow_Thief@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How does diddling kids affect competitive integrity?

[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Being forced to compete on the same team with or against a convicted pedophile would certainly distract me, and would likely degrade the audience's experience as well. Seems like a bad thing for sports.

[–] rishado@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We all get what you're saying dude. Doesn't mean there isn't a distinction. What you're describing is an indirect effect on competitive integrity, which might be an arbitrary difference for viewers but for the IOC it's a legitimate distinction.

[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world -3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Great! There is a distinction.

I. Don't. Care.

Ban the pedos.

I don't get why this is an argument. Why are we even discussing this? I feel like it should be a given. Question 1 on your Olympic Entry Exam: Have you, as an adult, had sex with someone who did not or could not consent?

You can put every other question about doping and ethics after that one, because if they get hung up on Question 1, they shouldn't be allowed to represent their country on a national stage. There are others that can answer that question in the negative that can take up the spot for their country.

It doesn't matter what distinctions there are between doping and fucking kids, we need to, as a species, stop putting pedophiles on pedestals. Don't buy their albums, don't watch their movies, and don't give them medals in the Olympics. They can work the fryer at McDonalds to support their wasted existence.

[–] rishado@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

No one was arguing with you from the beginning. We're just saying there's a distinction and the IOC probably views it like that.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I will never understand the 8 downvotes you have. Ban the pedos shouldn't be controversial.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

that's why I said "directly". I agree other issues can indirectly undermine the sport as well.

[–] Chadus_Maximus@lemm.ee -2 points 1 month ago

Judging by the fact that smash is still popular, quite a lot, actually.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Who the fuck is this everyone you're talking about here?

[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Everyone in all of the threads that were discussing the dutch pervert a few days ago. "He went to jail, he is reformed, etc..."

[–] ZombieMantis@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Let's ban the Dutch guy, and also the rest of the Dutch, until they reform their horrendous laws there, so that child rapist actually get some kind of punishment, rather than the tiniest slap on the wrist.

[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 47 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Phelps was actually so good that he needed to slow his performance down with bongloads and Subway sandos so people wouldn’t assume he was doping.

[–] ch00f@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And Usain Bolt ate exclusively McDoods Nugs.

[–] Irremarkable@fedia.io 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

IIRC, the reason he gave is they're consistent pretty much anywhere in the world. Last thing you want before an event is food poisoning.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

with all the calories they’re burning they can afford it anyway. i vaguely remember phelps talking about his usual daily meals being like stacks of chocolate chip waffles, and not chicken breast with salad as you might expect.

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's both, not one or the other. Dude was trying to get 8,000+ calories a day and also huge amounts of protein at the same time

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

it's important that people understand you can't mainline one type of intake when trying to both sustain the workouts/competition going on and preparing for a big meet. Not only does it get monotonous your body needs fats to refresh the digestive track and propel all that protein and carbs through the intestines. Trying that on a homogenous diet would be miserable.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Track Star Sha'Carri Richardson had to give up a gold medal after she tested positive for THC following a match.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What about things that may or may not constitute doping? Someone with some cold meds still in their system or who huffed oxygen before competition? Someone taking meds for a known condition that still had trace amounts in their system on the day?

There are many situations in which someone may have a foreign substance in their body that could provide advantage where they may be unaware that the substance is still lingering at competition time.

Not to mention, you’ll get people eliminating the competition by slipping them a mickey before the event….

[–] P1nkman@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Someone with some cold meds still in their system or who huffed oxygen before competition?

https://www.bbc.com/sport/winter-olympics/37703011 it's already happened. She got some cold medicine from her doctor while in Italy.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

you can also get therapeutic exceptions ahead of time.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How far ahead of time would you have to be, though? Colds and other common ailments are known for coming on quite suddenly and with little warning, after all..

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

yeah I was just saying it's not all done after the fact. People with known conditions can get exceptions. And issues with colds etc are reviewed, it's not like an automatic DSQ.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

True. An example from another sport is road race cyclist Bo Hamburger who got an exemption because he had asthma.

Apparently the same inhaler that helps asthmatic people breathe helps non-asthmatic people breathe TOO well or something along those lines lol

[–] datelmd5sum@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

IIRC all the norwegian xcountry skiers have asthma. Amazing that they can still dominate the sport, despite their illness.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Conclusion: cross country skiing excellence causes asthma.

As for Norwegians dominating cross country skiing, that's as close to a natural law as you get in sports 🤷😄

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 16 points 1 month ago

I mean honestly if it can be proved someone cheated in any competition knowingly then they should be banned.

[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 1 month ago

His hair looks like it's on upsidedown.

[–] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

But then there is no one left.

[–] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

For a while

[–] chemicalprophet@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

All we had to do to get rid of sports was to rigorously attempt to make them fair? Wow. Sports are DAF.

[–] miridius@lemmy.world -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Weed is not a performance enhancing drug lol

[–] miridius@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Oh right I didn't mean that I mean the PEDs that all top level athletes use

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