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[–] yesman@lemmy.world 73 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The problem isn't that we pet birds, it's that we eat them. Or more specifically we gather them in huge, unsanitary populations in close contact with humans as they are raised and slaughtered.

This reminds me of how people think AIDS spread from other primates through bestiality, when bushmeat was the correct answer. I guess it's easier to imagine bestiality than the consequences of carnism.

*not vegan, Just finding it harder and harder to dismiss them.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 28 points 2 months ago

I guess it’s easier to imagine bestiality than the consequences of carnism.

It’s because we spread HIV within our own population more commonly with sex than cannibalism

[–] dogsoahC@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago

But domesticated birds are not good carriers of influenza, specifically. Unlime wild birds, they do get sick. Otherwise, I totally agree.

[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world 33 points 2 months ago (6 children)

What wild birds out there letting you pet them?

[–] too_high_for_this@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The elites don't want you to know this but the ducks at the park are free you can take them home I have 458 ducks

[–] Cort@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

It's a shame passenger pigeon nets have fallen out of style. I imagine you could catch a lot of ducks with one of those

[–] dogsoahC@lemm.ee 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You got some bread? Then many.

[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's how you get bit by a duck

[–] veroxii@aussie.zone 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

How about something more beginner friendly, like a goose or a swan?

[–] mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago

Fucking goose

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It’s fledgling season in the northern hemisphere, and lots of fledglings don’t naturally have a ton of fear of humans. Adult birds might also ‘let’ people pet them after a window strike; they don’t always look like a bloody mess so people don’t always realize how injured they are.

[–] rockerface@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago

Usually the ones that let you approach are the sick or injured ones

[–] Tabula_stercore@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

There are no wild birds, because there are no birds at all. You can pet the drone once the battery has run out

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 1 points 2 months ago

Seen plenty on YouTube. Like crows.

[–] superduperpirate@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago

Let’s just hope Randy Marsh doesn’t go fuck a pangolin again

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Are you implying that pandemics are created by the government and spread by governmental drones?

[–] Opisek@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

They can be enemy drones, too.

[–] pancakes@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 months ago

Actually, foreign espionage is illegal so it cannot

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 months ago

When I'm talking about the government, I'm not talking about some shadow government like the Bundesregierung of German or the president of the US. I'm talking about the deep state government

[–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)
[–] Johanno 4 points 2 months ago

Krieger! Not again!

[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Yeah but bird.

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Isn't the problem more that it's now in cows and people in the US are refusing to stop buying it? Even worse, they are buying it on purpose?

[–] dogsoahC@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago

I think there it's more the ~~over~~use of antibiotics to speed up growth. Idk, I just ripped the info from a lecture. xD

[–] flora_explora@beehaw.org 1 points 2 months ago

From what I have read about this whole issue, it is certainly much more complex. Yes, antibiotics overuse in factory farming is certainly dangerous in that it can create antibiotic resistant strains of bacteria that we at some point cannot control. There are also huge problems with viruses in factory farming. Generally it isn't a good idea to have so many animals close together, it gives much more opportunities for diseases to spread. Especially because the animals that are used have an incredibly low gene pool and are maximally stressed I'd assume.

But another opportunity for diseases to jump from animals to humans is wild animals. By destroying more and more natural habitats, people also get in closer contact with wild animals. Like covid 19 most likely spread from wild animals to humans. So, habitat and biodiversity loss are also important risk factors increasing the potential for diseases to cross over to humans.

In my opinion, we should stop keeping animals altogether, as well as plant monocultures and should try to conserve as much habitats as possible.

[–] Isa 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Does petting corpses then, by any chance, start a …

[–] dogsoahC@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Depends. Did the corpse exhibit signs of motility?

[–] Isa 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] dogsoahC@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sir, please stay where you are. This is the SCP. Remain calm. You will be harmed. Not. Not be harmed.

[–] Isa 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Never heard of the SCP Foundation before … thanks!

*Stands still as a dead corpse*

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 3 points 2 months ago

That's why I always give them a gentle smooch on the beak instead.

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago

Thanks! I was looking for the instructions on how to start a pandemic.

[–] pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

isn't influenza the common cold, or am i stupid?

[–] boogetyboo@aussie.zone 4 points 2 months ago

Here you go:

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/symptoms/coldflu.htm#:~:text=Influenza%20(flu)%20and%20the%20common,%2C%20parainfluenza%2C%20and%20seasonal%20coronaviruses.

You're not stupid, just incorrectly informed. And smart enough to question that. That makes you waaaay smarter than the average person.

[–] dogsoahC@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago

Neither. Influenza is the flu. The common cold is caused by a variety of viruses, iirc.