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Fediverse vs Disinformation

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Propaganda and disinformation are a big problem on the internet, and the Fediverse is no exception.

What's the difference between misinformation and disinformation? The inadvertent spread of false information is misinformation. Disinformation is the intentional spread of falsehoods.

By equipping yourself with knowledge of current disinformation campaigns by state actors, corporations and their cheerleaders, you will be better able to identify, report and (hopefully) remove content matching known disinformation campaigns.

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[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 50 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Something really weird happened.

So most people in Washington are part of this weird incestuous in-group where you have to spend a ton of time around money-men and lobbyists and consultants to the point where you don't even know how to interact as a normal person anymore. Everything you say is fake. Every appearance is stage managed. The media and DNC and whoever are pretty good at sniffing out people who are genuine (Bernie or AOC) and shitting on them relentlessly, to the point where it's difficult for them to get anywhere near power.

Harris is different. Of course she's a politician, but she worked her way up in politics and held jobs where you had to perform for your employers as opposed to just win elections and then it was completely up to you until the next election what you wanted to do with the position or what to do on any given day. She hasn't been in that Washington machine for long enough to need to be taught how much milk costs or what "streaming" is on the internet, or anything like that. She laughs on TV during interviews. She has stepkids. That's why her tactics are so different -- it's not based on this pod-person understanding of American life or of "the voters" as if they were some kind of brain damaged alien species or advanced type of livestock or something.

It is basically only by accident that she was allowed near the levers of power. I don't know how it will turn out, but if she does get elected, it could turn out to be really, really good.

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 month ago

Most of what you say about Harris was also true of Obama, so it's not that uncommon. But hopefully she's as solid a candidate. :)

Actually, going back through presidents, a lot of them seem to be relatively fresh to Washington. Clinton, Gw, Regan, and Carter were all Governors, Obama was a one term senator, Ford was a preposterous fluke and the longest "Washington insider" to become president (25 years as a representative) albeit he never actually ran, followed by HW who was an ambassador, vice president and CIA director.

Sanders has actually been in Washington longer than most of the recent presidents have.

[–] averyminya@beehaw.org 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I do think she's indicative of, hopefully, a shift towards younger people in politics. For a long time it was reported that young people in politics were actively impeded from progressing in politics "because they don't understand" and are too young. However, I don't think this is because of her age, as she's older than Obama was when elected, but rather because the dinosaurs are dying.

Feinsteinn was the start, McConnel is serving his last term, Pelosi is playing stock market. The political climate has really changed in the last 12 years and I'm just not sure that the impedance is just age related anymore, but alignment. Another shift we can look to is 2016 with how Bernie was a very popular candidate but didn't have the alignment that Clinton did. At the time, it was him and AOC as the leftist party leaders, Clintons for Democrats, and MAGA because Republicans have ceased to exist.

Parts of the Republican party are now trying to rebuild as there's a not insignificant portion who dislike what MAGA has done to the political climate. But they also aren't really running for local offices, it's still right-wing Dominionists vying for those positions. And unfortunately a large amount of red states are doing everything they can to destroy their public education.

The Democratic party has been shifting foreign policy but not in the right ways, but more than ever there are people who are starting to see the value of actual progressives in politics, shedding light on the B.S. that the Democrats have done. Far fewer purposefully evil policies, but they still exist and more about political tactics, like the attempt on Roe to rally voters among a number of others. And of course, the support of the abhorrent wars.

What I mean to say is that I hope this is paving a path towards more people like AOC and Bernie in politics. That sure as hell wasn't happening throughout 2016, there was a large number of people like us who had to leave their positions in red states due to threats against their lives, something that has been a major factor in why I feel it's so important to not only vote locally but to prevent a repeat of 2016. The sheer amount of evil that was accomplished really set us back in pretty much every conceivable way, which is why it's so important that it doesn't happen again.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 4 points 1 month ago

Yeah. I think when a lot of the people that run the Democratic establishment think of lefty candidates, they think of George McGovern getting his ass kicked by Nixon, and they think naw we can’t do that, we gotta do another Bill Clinton, that’s what the kids are into these days. Did you see him play the saxophone?

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But Biden isn't a dynasty.

[–] ryven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

And Clinton isn't really either, because Hillary was never pres or veep. She tried to become a "dynasty" but failed, so you could have posted the same "no more dynasties" headline in 2016. Or... in 2008, when she didn't make it to the general, and neither did a Bush. By my count the last "dynasty" was the Bushes, and it ended when Obama was sworn in. And the last dynasty before that was, uh, the Roosevelts? Unless I'm missing one in the VPs.

[–] meep_launcher@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago

Did you know that we have never had someone not named Biden, Trump, Obama, Bush, Clinton, Reagan, Carter, Ford, Nixon, Johnson, Kennedy, Eisenhower, Truman, Roosevelt, Hoover, Coolidge, Harding, Wilson, or Taft as president since the year 1900!? America is a monarchist dynasty confirmed.

[–] Nobody@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Interesting fact, but I’m not sure Biden qualifies as a dynastic candidate. But who knows? Maybe Hunter Biden runs in 8 years.

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yeah, if you leave Biden out of it it's a lot less interesting. You could also tack on Mondale, Ford, Nixon, and Johnson and take it back into the 40s, but... Why.

[–] son_named_bort@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Hell, Nixon appeared on the ballot 5 times as a combination of VP and Presidential candidate, which is two more times than either Biden or Trump.

[–] somethingsnappy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Still interesting if you also look at the senate as a monarchy. I mean, damn.

[–] Jimmyeatsausage@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It will probably be the 1st President whose dick pic entered the congressional record before he even ran for office.

[–] Nobody@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The first dick pic President so far.

[–] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Biden Jr vs Trump Jr

The election no one wants, gen2

I feel bad even typing it out lou.dA I feel like I jinxed it.

[–] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago

lmao, was gonna say, "don't even say it!"

[–] dariusj18@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh yeah, the new Lyndon LaRouche!

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But can RFK tell a knock-knock joke?

[–] Whattrees@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago

I bet the worms can

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Hunter Biden for VP confirmed

[–] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

Or even an Obama!? Mercy.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

good riddance