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[–] morethanevil@lemmy.fedifriends.social 151 points 1 month ago (10 children)

Cleanup

Check current disk usage:

sudo journalctl --disk-usage

Use rotate function:

sudo journalctl --rotate

Or

Remove all logs and keep the last 2 days:

sudo journalctl --vacuum-time=2days

Or

Remove all logs and only keep the last 100MB:

sudo journalctl --vacuum-size=100M

How to read logs:

Follow specific log for a service:

sudo journalctl -fu SERVICE

Show extended log info and print the last lines of a service:

sudo journalctl -xeu SERVICE

[–] DmMacniel 38 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean yeah -fu stands for "follow unit" but its also a nice coincidence when it comes to debugging that particular service.

[–] lseif@sopuli.xyz 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

--vacuum-time=2days

this implies i keep an operating system installed for that long

[–] jbk@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 month ago

something something nix?

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

sudo journalctl --disk-usage

panda@Panda:~$ sudo journalctl --disk-usage  
No journal files were found.  
Archived and active journals take up 0B in the file system.

hmmmmmm........

[–] superkret 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)
user@u9310x-Slack:~$ sudo journalctl --disk-usage  
Password:  
sudo: journalctl: command not found  
[–] DmMacniel 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

seems like someone doesn't like systemd :)

[–] superkret 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't have any feelings towards particular init systems.

[–] Scipitie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Just curious, what distro do you use that systemd is not the default? (I at least you didn't change it after the fact if you don't have any feelings (towards unit systems ;) ) )

[–] superkret 5 points 1 month ago
[–] kralk@lemm.ee 9 points 1 month ago

Badass! Thanks!

[–] Tekkip20@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Thank you for this, wise sage.

Your wisdom will be passed down the family line for generations about managing machine logs.

Glad to help your family, share this wisdom with friends too ☝🏻😃

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[–] elxeno@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

@RemindMe@programming.dev 6 months

[–] elxeno@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

@ategon@programming.dev is the remindme bot offline?

[–] Ategon@programming.dev 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Its semi broken currently and also functions on a whitelist with this community not being on the whitelist

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[–] Pacmanlives@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Actually something I never dug into. But does logrotate no longer work? I have a bunch of disk space these days so I would not notice large log files

[–] morethanevil@lemmy.fedifriends.social 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

If logrotate doesn't work, than use this as a cronjob via sudo crontab -e Put this line at the end of the file:

0 0 * * * journalctl --vacuum-size=1G >/dev/null 2>&1

Everyday the logs will be trimmed to 1GB. Usually the logs are trimmed automatically at 4GB, but sometimes this does not work

[–] fallingcats@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If we're using systemd already, why not a timer?

[–] morethanevil@lemmy.fedifriends.social 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Cron is better known than a systemd timer, but you can provide an example for the timer 😃

[–] fallingcats@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Really, the correct way would be to set the limit you want for journald. Put this into /etc/systemd/journald.conf.d/00-journal-size.conf:

[Journal]
SystemMaxUse=50M

Or something like this using a timer: systemd-run --timer-property=OnCalender=daily $COMMAND

Thanks for this addition ☺️

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Why isn't it configured like that by default?

[–] faerbit@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

It is. The defaults are a little bit more lenient, but it shouldn't gobble up 80 GB of storage.

Good question, it may depend on the distro afaik

If you use OpenRC you can just delete a couple files

[–] RobotZap10000@feddit.nl 31 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Try 60GB of system logs after 15 minutes of use. My old laptop's wifi card worked just fine, but spammed the error log with some corrected error. Adding pci=noaer to grub config fixed it.

[–] xilophor@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago

I had an issue on my PC (assuming faulty graphics driver or bug after waking from sleep) that caused my syslog file to reach 500GiB. Yes, 500GiB.

[–] Andrew15_5@mander.xyz 30 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)
[–] Ironfacebuster@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Andrew15_5@mander.xyz 5 points 1 month ago

Ah, yes, the standard burger size.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You just need a bigger drive. Don't delete anything

[–] b00m@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Oh lord watch me hoard

[–] hushable@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Once I had a mission critical service crash because the disk got full, turns out there was a typo on the logrotate config and as a result the logs were not being cleaned up at all.

edit: I should add that I used the commands shared in this post to free up space and bring the service back up

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Fucking blows my mind that journald broke what is essentially the default behavior of every distro's use of logrotate and no one bats an eye.

[–] Regalia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I'm not sure if you're joking or not, but the behavior of journald is fairly dynamic and can be configured to an obnoxious degree, including compression and sealing.

By default, the size limit is 4GB:

SystemMaxUse= and RuntimeMaxUse= control how much disk space the journal may use up at most. SystemKeepFree= and RuntimeKeepFree= control how much disk space systemd-journald shall leave free for other uses. systemd-journald will respect both limits and use the smaller of the two values.

The first pair defaults to 10% and the second to 15% of the size of the respective file system, but each value is capped to 4G.

[–] Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me 13 points 1 month ago

If anything I tend to have the opposite problem: whoops I forgot to set up logrotate for this log file I set up 6 months ago and now my disk is completely full. Never happens for stuff that goes to journald.

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

It can be, but the defaults are freaking stupid and often do not work.

[–] Starbuck@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Aren’t the defaults set by your distro?

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[–] muhyb@programming.dev 16 points 1 month ago

This once happened to me on my pi-hole. It's an old netbook with 250 GB HDD. Pi-hole stopped working and I checked the netbook. There was a 242 GB log file. :)

[–] SuperIce@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

Systems/Journald keeps 4GB of logs stored by default.

[–] Muscar@discuss.online 10 points 1 month ago
[–] snugglebutt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Recently had the jellyfin log directory take up 200GB, checked the forums and saw someone with the same problem but 1TB instead.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

2024-03-28 16:37:12:017 - Everythings fine

2024-03-28 16:37:12:016 - Everythings fine

2024-03-28 16:37:12:015 - Everythings fine

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

logrotate is a thing.

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Windows isn't great by any means but I do like the way they have the Event Viewer layout sorted to my tastes.

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 3 points 1 month ago

True that. Sure, I need to keep my non-professional home sysadmin skills sharp and enjoy getting good at these things, but I wouldn't mind a better GUI journal reader / configurator thing. KDE has a halfway decent log viewer.

It might also go a long way towards helping the less sysadmin-for-fun-inclined types troubleshoot.

Maybe there is one and I just haven't checked. XD

[–] Scribbd@feddit.nl 6 points 1 month ago

I recently discovered the company I work for, has an S3 bucket with network flow logs of several TB. It contains all network activity if the past 8 years.

Not because we needed it. No, the lifecycle policy wasn't configured correctly.

[–] alien@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago

I couldn't tell for a solid minute if the title was telling me to clear the journal or not

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