I did not have "RDJ comes back to the MCU as a non-Stark character" on my bingo card
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watch it be a multiverse version of Tony Stark.
edit: also if this is legit I am disappointed they didn't long-tease the reveal in movies or post credit scenes. this seems very un-marvel, maybe out of desperation. they straight up blew what could have been the biggest and most shocking reveal in history.
edit 2: also, how long until "I am Dr Doom!"
Tony made Ultron as the ultimate defense around the world. I could see the idea going a slightly different way and that Tony being a little more ambitious/evil, next thing you know he's Doom.
I get that I'm in the minority, but I think this is going to not be related to Iron Man at all.
Rdj has range. And Doom wears a mask. I think he decided he was too old to keep playing Tony and wanted to retire the character on a high note, but the movies are fun to make and make him a mint, so when they offered a recast he went for it. But I don't think he'd want to screw with the completed story for Tony Stark's character.
I think RDJ is just going to play Doom, and he'll do a good enough job that no one is going to confuse the characters. Based on his acting choices, that's my guess.
That just sounds super confusing. I know Marvel has done that with some smaller characters, but Tony Stark is the closest thing the MCU has/had to a main character. If it's not an alternate Ironman it'll just confuse audiences.
I don’t think it’d be confusing if they either never show his face, or only show his face as heavily disfigured.
I did worry about his voice though, as RDJ has a pretty distinct accent and way of speaking, but then I reasoned that he’s a good enough actor to put on an accent, and that Latveria, being a fictional country, could justify a strange accent and mask his speech, no pun intended.
Yeah. To add to this: my husband was just reflecting on how dismayed Iron Man fans were when he was cast as Tony Stark in 2007. The consensus on forums like this was that he was a skinny, nebbish weirdo with a nasally voice who was probably too unreliable due to addiction issues to appear consistently in a franchise. And yet here we are.
People forget this: he's an actual actor! He's not just that one voice and face!
I think he's genuinely done and satisfied with Tony Stark as a character, but he had a lot of fun being in Marvel movies, so he's starting over. Yes: he was the main character. And I think he'd like to go on being a main character, but wants a new experience and the opportunity to play the ultimate villain. And when he gets in character, I don't think anyone is going to be confused.
That seems like something they should’ve waited to reveal during the movie, like had some misdirection about RDJ just being in it for a flashback or a recorded video, just downplay it and make it seem small. Then bust the revelation out midway through the movie.
I'm sure they considered that possibility. But imagine the revenue. RDJ and Doom are both huge draws. Revealing them both in advance gets you more makes money gesture
I found this post browsing All. I have had significant superhero fatigue right after infinity war part 2, after a whole decade of mild disbelief at how huge these once-niche characters have become.
This headline definitely grabbed my attention, and as you said, the fact that they’re spoiling that he’s going to play Doom is why I checked this thread.
revealing them both
Even mentioning them as separate things wouldn’t have made me look. Their marketing machine is definitely working overtime to get the attention of people burned out on superhero movies.
Their marketing machine is definitely working overtime to get the attention of people burned out on superhero movies.
I haven't consumed a single piece of Marvel content since Endgame, and this announcement does nothing for me. The marketing machine needs to step up its game.
I haven’t either, and here we both are commenting on it. That’s what I mean.
Why?
Because, dumbass.
cool spoilers
Ten to one this is a bullshit post. Unless someone can come up with a story on how that would even happen
Tony: I need to protect the world at all costs. I will be the suit of armor around the world. Oh look, multiverse.
MCU doesn’t really have a ‘proper’ Reed Richards, so the alternate universe Evil Reed from Secret Wars couldn’t work that way. The only brains of the MCU that could fill that role in that plot would be either Stark or Bannon, and the latter is a) still alive and b) already his own foil and his genius isn’t really played in the same way anyway. B-list alternative would be Hank Pym but he’s not been central to the MCU in anything like the same way as the other two.
Honestly I think it might work pretty well story-wise. Though actual reason is just… well, money. And the course correction aspect previously mentioned in these comments.
Isn't Pedro Pascal going to be Reed? He has some gravitas.
Sure, and that will be great I’m sure, but an evil version of a character we’ve just been introduced to won’t hit the same.
Well now. That's a course correction.