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Former President Donald Trump urged members of a crowd in Florida to vote and said that if he wins, they “won’t have to vote anymore.”

Speaking at a Turning Point Action event in West Palm Beach on Friday, Trump, who tried to overturn the 2020 election he lost, delivered a cryptic message.

“And again, Christians, get out and vote!” he said to a cheering audience. “Just this time. You won’t have to do it anymore. Four more years. You know what? It’ll be fixed! It’ll be fine! You won’t have to vote anymore, my beautiful Christians. I love you, Christians! I’m a Christian. I love you. Get out. You gotta get out and vote. In four years, you don’t have to vote again.”

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[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 456 points 3 months ago (6 children)

What the fuck is supposed to be cryptic about this? He's making it perfectly clear that he wants to overthrow democracy in the US. And everybody who votes for him is OK with that.

[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 179 points 3 months ago (5 children)

People asked the question before. It went something like:

"You do realize that he'll be a dictator, right?"

" We don't care. He'll be our dictator and that's all that matters."

And then they'll say they do it for freedom and democracy.

[–] Guy_Fieris_Hair@lemmy.world 107 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Or the more common answer:

"He misspoke and the media is taking out of context."

Even though he has said it thirty different ways and this just happens to line up with the narrative.

[–] UpperBroccoli@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 3 months ago

And he kept a running mate who keeps saying it.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 36 points 3 months ago (14 children)

There's another angle to the dictator thing-

A lot of people essentially think the president already is a dictator. That's why even people on the left say things like, "why doesn't Biden raise the minimum wage?!" when that requires an act of congress.

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[–] PassingThrough@lemmy.world 44 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Many don’t think he can pull it off, which is the scary part that might let him do it.

“Oh, that’s all talk. He can say what he wants but can’t do shit without the House and Congress, and if he wanted to change things to get more terms? With states majority agreement that’s required? Not in his lifetime. You worry for nothing, PassingThrough, it’s all showmanship, as it always has been. And no, the Army wouldn’t help such an obvious fool overthrow the government either.”

[–] grabyourmotherskeys@lemmy.world 38 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's crazy.

"Oh, your drunk uncle Mike who has three arson convictions, thinks you turned the family against him, and is in your attached garage with gas and a lighter threatening to burn it down? Don't worry about him, he's harmless!"

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[–] overload@sopuli.xyz 259 points 3 months ago (12 children)

Your country is insane.

In any other democratic nation in the world, a politician saying this would be finished.

I hope for the sake of humanity that all the sane people in the US go out and tells everyone they know that cares about democracy and the rule of law what Trump is planning to do, especially in the swing states.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 97 points 3 months ago (10 children)

Our country is full of proudly ignorant bootlickers

Turns out all you need to do is make up some bullshit about "American dreams" and "bootstraps," make them believe they too can (and probably already should!) be a billionaire, and the one thing stopping that are those goddamn Marxist Democrats and their "progressive taxation," and "social safety nets for the blacks (please ignore the fact that I'm on disability, it's different)".

Republicans have been sabotaging our country's own public education system for 25+ years at this point. Selling the future prosperity of our nation down the river for a voter-base with cult-like devotion, and a unique ability to ignore objective reality.

Unfortunately for the planet, it seems to have been wildly successful.

The next step is to do away with democracy altogether.

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[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 65 points 3 months ago (26 children)

I hate to break it to you, but it's not just our country.

[–] beebarfbadger@lemmy.world 37 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It may be the most successful example of indoctrination of parts of the populace of a supposedly developed nation by the ruling class though.

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[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 52 points 3 months ago (3 children)

in any other democratic nation, he would have been finished in 2015, when the "grab'em by the pussy" tape came out

but no, it's 2024 and we STILL have to waste time arguing about drag queens and library books

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[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 213 points 3 months ago (10 children)

"I love you, christians. I am a christian!"

Who the fuck talks like that? And who the fuck votes for a guy that talks like that?

[–] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 102 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Hello my fellow human beings, I'm a human and love doing human activities.

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[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 80 points 3 months ago (1 children)

These people who talk equally as phony.

Behold: a black person.

[–] derpgon@programming.dev 55 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Too stupid to be satire, but also too stupid to not be satire. I am not sure with this one, chief.

[–] Seleni@lemmy.world 55 points 3 months ago (2 children)

If I recall correctly, he forgot to switch accounts before posting that one.

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[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 65 points 3 months ago (10 children)

Imagine how stupid the average person is, then realize half of all people are stupider than that.

  • George Carlin
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[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 179 points 3 months ago (8 children)

Trump using the language of a tyrant is not an accident. When people say that democracy is on the line this election, we're not being hyperbolic, we're saying that because of statements like this. Please get out there and vote this November.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 47 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Him saying it out loud is an accident. People with dementia often forget that they're not supposed to say certain things out loud.

[–] Xanthobilly@lemmy.world 44 points 3 months ago (1 children)

While that may be true, I also think it’s because he feels comfortable enough to say it out loud. These people and a fanatic third of the US are that far gone.

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[–] Sidyctism2@discuss.tchncs.de 159 points 3 months ago (2 children)

oh yeah, so cryptic. gotta bust out my cryptography degree for this one. might need a couple quantum computers too. wow, the crypticity is at an all-time high. its over 8000, i tell ya.

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[–] coyootje@lemmy.world 141 points 3 months ago (10 children)

As an outsider I honestly just don't get what people see in this idiot. How can you take someone that talk like that seriously? He sounds like a nutter that is promising crazy stuff that would literally mean the end of the USA as we know it.

If he'd get his way with this and the other project 2025 stuff it'd honestly be the end of America I think.

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 85 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Trump is a cult leader in all but name. His zealots support worldviews that have been made illegal, taboo, obsolete, or otherwise unacceptable, like white supremacy and racism, fascism, theocracy, homo-/transphobia, and mysogyny; they perceive this as an attack against their lifestyles by "the others." They will rally to the loudest voice that speaks out against "the others" and support him as long as that remains true.

Trump cultists are irrational creatures, you can't apply rational expectations and deduce a satisfactory answer.

[–] Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world 49 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

As an insider, it's even worse. You didn't have to suffer 4 years of continuous clusterfuck and embarrassment only to be topped off by a planned insurrection that they still try to gaslight everyone about.

You're absolutely correct that it would be the end of America.

[–] dogsnest@lemmy.world 45 points 3 months ago

I'm Canadian and whenever I'm abroad, the locals ask me what the fuck is wrong with Americans. Expecting I'll know better bc we're neighbours.
Which is true, since we're more likely to interact.
All I can reply is, "They're just totally fucked!" It's that simple!

Also, when I meet Americans abroad now, the first thing they do is apologize for America. That's the only Canadian trait that's rubbed off on them.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 44 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

As an American, neither do I. The man was a national joke for 30+ years, and all it took was a shiny new coat of paint in the form of a reality TV show where they just straight up constantly lied about his wealth and business acumen, for people to literally begin worshipping him.

Watching your loved ones fall into this shit is heartbreaking.

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[–] Takios@discuss.tchncs.de 116 points 3 months ago (2 children)

This is as cryptic as saying "I will come to your house tonight and burn it down with everyone still in it."

[–] kewko@sh.itjust.works 39 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You will never need to worry about your house again!

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[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 113 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You heard it straight from Trump: you don't have to vote anymore.

If you're a trump supporter, take a break on election day. He's got it covered.

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[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 101 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Too all the Trump supporters, if you want, you can stop voting now. No, seriously, it is a hassle. Stay home, the rest of us can handle it.

[–] Cheems@lemmy.world 98 points 3 months ago (4 children)

In my eyes this is the actual scariest thing he's ever said.

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[–] thefrankring@lemmy.world 95 points 3 months ago (6 children)

I'm not american, but I have a feeling this election is going to go into history.

Vote for Trump and he'll turn it into dictatorship.

Vote for Harris and she'll be the first woman president.

What will it be?

[–] Zeke@fedia.io 39 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

Not just the first woman president, but the first female mixed race president and the first to snap back when attacked in a long time. Trump is scared. He just went from saying "you don't need to vote because we have plenty of votes" to "please vote so we can put an to end voting"

Edited to say first female mixed race since Obama was first mixed race

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 62 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Obama was the first mixed race President.

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[–] NutWrench@lemmy.world 94 points 3 months ago (1 children)

There's nothing subtle about Trump. So when he say something blatantly stupid and evil, it doesn't need translation or interpretation. If he says, "we're going to 'fix' voting so that you'll never have to worry about voting ever again" there only ONE way to interpret that. Believe people when they show you what they really are.

It also doesn't help that our mainstream, "liberal news media" (you know, the one that's owned by only six corporations) is constantly running interference for Trump.

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[–] Mushroomm@sh.itjust.works 88 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Cryptically? This motherfucker is the most transparent asshole on the planet. He couldn't convince a bucket of fish they were out of the water.

He plain and clearly said "if I win it will be the end of democracy". There isn't subtext.

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[–] foggy@lemmy.world 76 points 3 months ago

That is not cryptic. He's saying the quiet part out loud.

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 62 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Cryptic, no. Bizarre, yes.

[–] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 35 points 3 months ago

Not even bizarre, just saying the quiet part out loud, again.

[–] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 62 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Wow, I mean technically the Antichrist and the False Prophet COULD be the same person, nothing in Revelation says they can’t.

[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 37 points 3 months ago

With all the people wearing a bandage on their ear it looks like they already have their stigmata.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 61 points 3 months ago

In four years, you don’t have to vote again.

Man, I thought it was just a misquote, but he kept going and getting more specific.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 58 points 3 months ago (1 children)

There's nothing cryptic about that at all. He's telling you what you should be believing for once.

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[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 58 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Wow so cryptic I wonder what he could be implying

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[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 57 points 3 months ago (2 children)

LOL i was wondering how long it would take for them to come out and say it

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[–] VantaBrandon@lemmy.world 40 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Cryptic implies there is something to decipher

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[–] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 39 points 3 months ago (6 children)

Doesn't seem particularly "cryptic" to me. Essentially he's saying "If we win, you don't need to vote, because I'll make sure we win from now on by rigging it".

Seems pretty cut and dry to me what he's saying.

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[–] rickdg@lemmy.world 39 points 3 months ago

“btw I’m not a threat to democracy, you’re a threat to democracy”

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