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The whole article is a pathetic attempt at propaganda against EU. They have nothing to show that she or EU did anything wrong.
Albanese said she is working on a report which will expose
They have nothing except throwing slander around.
Also Von der Leyen has no executive power.
Don't worry, all possible proof will "accidentally" get deleted.
We have a president??
Oh, the Commission president. Another article written by somebody who has no idea how the EU worls and what the people in it do. I would have expected someone in the UN to have at least a faint idea how a relatively important international body was governed.
are you under the impression that Albanese wrote the article? she doesn't have editorial control over what the title is.
Shouldn’t you start with the UN then? Seems to be more within your control
what would've you liked her to do at the UN? are you under the false impression that she's not also applying internal pressure on the UN member states causing the genocide? is Israel not losing their shit at UN meetings every single time a UN official calls them out?
What makes you think the EU is any different?
Other than the obvious EU is a threat to Russia why would they be called out?
wdym by the EU isn't any different? who are you comparing with here?
what does Russia have to do with this? you've deeply confused me
If you read the comment above mine you’d know it’s being compared to the UN
what does Russia have to do with this?
I asked for a reason other than benefiting Russia that people would go after the EU because it’s the most obvious reason and doesn’t need to be discussed
If you read the comment above mine you’d know it’s being compared to the UN
what does Russia have to do with this?
I asked for a reason other than benefiting Russia that people would go after the EU because it’s the most obvious reason and doesn’t need to be discussed
Why? The only arguments made in it, are that she talks with the Israelis and that she does not stop arms sales to Israel. Foreign policy including banning arms sales requires all members to agree, which is not going to happen. Von der Leyen and no EU offical for that matter can do that. So her only crime is that she continued to have diplomatic relations with Israel, which is also the case for most other countries in the world.
The argument to charge her for that crime seems to me to be incredibly weak.
I'm not sure if I believe her to be guilty of supporting genocide, but I would like to see a judge decide on that. On the other hand, we can't send all political leaders to court at the time.
I would like to see a judge decide on that.
Pff based on what? That's like saying you'd want a judge to decide whether I walked a red light yesterday in a city I wasn't even in.
Von der Leyen doesn't have executive power, she is incapable of being complicit in Israel war crimes from her position in EU even if she wanted to.
"everyone else also did it" didn't seem to protect the Nazis during their prosecution so I think that's a garbage argument to make.
she could've done the bare minimum of making a public statement and try to sway EU members to stop the arms sales. instead, she encourages everyone to intensify the genocide. that's reason enough for an ICJ case.
More like: Hey you talked to a rapist, you are complicit in the rape.
“everyone else also did it” didn’t seem to protect the Nazis during their prosecution so I think that’s a garbage argument to make.
Nazis also eat bread like everybody else. Sometimes everybody else doing something is just because it is the normal thing to do. Talking with a Nazi, does not make you a Nazi.
she could’ve done the bare minimum of making a public statement and try to sway EU members to stop the arms sales. instead, she encourages everyone to intensify the genocide.
She does call for immediate ceasefires, humanitarian breaks and so forth pretty often, has increased EU aid to Gaza and supported placing EU sanctions on Israeli settlers. Not exactly the sort of stuff happening in a genocide.
that’s reason enough for an ICJ case.
Von der Leyen is not a country, so the ICJ has jurisdiction over her. The ICC could do that, but so far they only went against Netanyahu and Gallant for crimes against humanity and war crimes. Most of those were related to Israel blocking food into Gaza, which von der Leyen actively opposed.
Talking with a Nazi, does not make you a Nazi.
no it does not, but agreeing with them and being one of their biggest global supporters does.
you're trying to paint Ursula as a neutral figure, which is the opposite of her track record on Israel.
she's not just being acused of diplomatic relations with Israel, but for bolstering the genocidal propaganda that blames Palestinians for their own extermination which is exactly what a Nazi would do. also for materially providing the weapons of extermination to Israel even though they're the aggressor and aren't in need of financial support.
Not exactly the sort of stuff happening in a genocide.
so you're just a straight up genocide denier, got it. Israel flattening Gaza and erasing entire cities from existence is an example of Israeli restraint and humanitarianism, I assume.
Von der Leyen is not a country, so the ICJ has jurisdiction over her.
my bad, there was indeed a complaint filed against her at the ICC, which Albanese seems to be referencing. I think she's right in saying that the ICC should do more even though it would diverge from their normative record because these are extreme circumstances.
Most of those were related to Israel blocking food into Gaza, which von der Leyen actively opposed.
you can't claim she opposes the withholding of humanitarian aid while at the same time arming the IDF to make it impossible for the humanitarian convoys to go into Gaza. also the IDF bombing said convoys.
that's like claiming that you couldn't have possibly known that promoting friendly relations with China and promoting more intense economic cooperation would lead to more Uyghurs ending up in forced labor camps or being ethnically cleansed.
Do genocide don, genocide bibi and genocide putin first, that would solve 95% of the problems to start with.
Looks like russians are busy resetting their disinformation campaign on VdL (this is the left-wing of it, the right wing exists as well among antivaxxers and other communities), because apparently Europe is not letting Ukraine fall even if trump doesn’t care. https://meduza.io/en/feature/2025/04/19/imagined-common-enemies watch out for the “Eurofascism” buzzword.
But it’s pathetic, VdL has no real executive power and the EU decision making is too decentralized to demonize single figureheads with their hamfisted attempts, like it worked with genocide joe.
Germany supporting Israel is an example of fascism, just because reality vaguely aligns with Russian propaganda which incorporates kernels of truth to be effective doesn't mean Europe isn't complicit in genocide. this sounds like conspiratorial thinking to me.
in order for Ursula to be demonized, Albanese's facts would have to be untrue which you haven't proven yet. are you just defaulting to trusting Israel every time over the UN saying these are crimes against humanity?
By that criterion, Xi Jinping and the Iranians are also complicit in Ukrainian genocide and boom, you've just emptied international arrest mandates of any meaning while demonizing VdL who has even less responsibility in the matter as mostly a figurehead, but the russians act like she is the ruler of Europe and uninformed people in Europe and the US believe it. It's a pathetic giveaway, like that time a republican started talking about warm water ports.
Even if you are generous with Albanese, and you understand that she is desperately shooting in every direction hoping to hit someone who she actually has leverage over to stop the killing, ultimately these weak accusations detract from the prosecution of actual war criminals and their direct helpers and supporters e.g. genocide trump. That's who you should be focusing your efforts on.
By that criterion, Xi Jinping and the Iranians are also complicit in Ukrainian genocide
idk what made you think this would be a gotcha moment. this logic is actually very consistent with Albanese's, any world leaders complicit in genocide should be punished.
I agree Trump should be tried by the ICC as long as you maintain this logical consistency for Biden, who was the first after Oct 7 to mainstream this narrative that Israel is justified in ethnically cleansing Palestine because "all Palestinians are Hamas dontcha know, Jack?"
you seem to have fallen victim to the logical fallacy that claims you can't focus on more than one big thing at a time.
"Hey, the UK sells weapons to Israel, why not send an international arrest warrant against King Charles?"
The only people who benefit from this debasement of international arrest warrants are its current targets: genocide bibi and genocide putin.
ignoring the bad faith of comparing Ursula to Charles and assuming that Charles was a supporter of the Palestinian genocide, then absolutely yes. it would be hilarious to finally see a British Royal be held accountable for their genocides.
The Germans were once tried for war crimes against the Jews. Now they are once again tried for war crimes, this time for the Jews.
The Jews and the Israeli government are two different things, i think it is important to make that distinction because there is plenty of Jewish people who do not support the genocide.
Yes, and both times they were driven by economical interests. Pecunia non olet.
It would be just.
It was baffling how politics, politicians, and governments openly and actively continued to support Israel despite the information and images we saw.
continues supporting* in present continous
Let's not forget genocide enablers with Germany in front.
Yes, that is absolutely right. Active support for genocide is also a crime against humanity and must be prosecuted.
To finally do this at all levels is also absolutely in the interest of the voters, because the majority of them are of the opinion that Israel must of course be held accountable for all its terrible misdeeds. Despite all the one-sided reporting by the obviously partisan media, it is absolutely clear that Israel commits mass murder, completely disregards international law and constantly commits the worst war crimes. Yet these disgusting opportunists who are supposed to be our representatives simply disregard the will of the people - they must also be held personally accountable.
I am truly ashamed of the behavior of the German government. It is outrageous and simply inexplicable to me how almost all parties in Germany still cling to their unconditional support for the criminal regime in Israel.
It is simply absurd to even supply weapons to a government against some of whose highest representatives arrest warrants have long been issued by the International Criminal Court. Unlike the USA, which has never recognized this institution for obvious reasons, decisions of the International Criminal Court are binding for Germany. And yet: not a word of criticism of Israel, instead even active support for genocide. I can only explain this with massive corruption at the highest levels.
Germany's historical responsibility is not to Israel, but to all persecuted groups. In this sense, it is precisely Germany's responsibility to resolutely oppose Israel's crimes. But no, our politicians continue to stand by the side of the most horrible monsters and even take the liberty of justifying this with the very historical responsibility they are mocking. It is disgusting.
As I said, as a German I am ashamed of Germany's actions.
Yes please! Get that dictatorial, evil bitch!
/a German