I don't even understand what's being added to these programs anway, lol.
For most purposes Office 2003/2007 would be fine even nowadays, unless you do some crazy stuff in Excel I guess.
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The newer versions have Office365 in it, which makes it easier to administer for large companies. That is also the big customer base for them, which means a lot of legacy support bloating the entire thing, while it mostly runs of slower web technology, rather then being native.
Yeah but how could they sell you on subscription services and 'new features' if you just keep using the old one?
Bit like buying a new car for no other reason than "it's new".
That said, in 2018~ i had to modernize an MS Access 2003 database and about lost my mind so there's a case for everything i suppose.
Optimise the program? Nah. Make it start on boot instead!
I guess that's the 30% AI generated code.
Up to!
So far!
Microsoft:
Excel bloat has gotten so bad I learned Python because I was sick of trying to come up with workarounds to make Excel handle moderately sized datasets without crashing. Now I just write python scripts to do anything I need and if I need to show my work to someone who doesn't use Python I just export my data to Excel and copy over the last few steps in Excel to show how it works. It's still faster than doing everything in Excel.
Ok but you could also try LibreOffice, its probably much faster than microsofts office.
https://www.libreoffice.org/discover/libreoffice/
At least on my Linux machine, it starts quick and does what I need.
Yeah sure let me get my Fortune 500 employer to switch over to libreoffice that's a solution.
But seriously though libreoffice is okay if you're doing very basic stuff, but it's even jankier than Excel in the circumstances I described minus the background usage just from opening the app.
This is old news.
Very old. I remember finding the "office startup accelerator", or whatever it was called, that pre loaded all the office dlls in my startup items way back before 2000.
Yes, but now it's officially. Old, well, i thought it was older than 27.04. Still a few days old tho.
Istg microsoft has the most incompetent engineers, specially when you consider offensively bad apps like teams.
A few days ago I read in an article that Microsoft is currently having 30% of the new source code generated by AIs - and I believe this more and more with every release.
It's not the engineers, it's the managers. Enginners don't get to decide, they get to do as they are told. Developers don't have any more power than any other large corporation employee.
Oh good, I always wanted something in the background eating more memory than my 42 browser tabs.
42 browser tabs.
Amateur, that is only one browser window 🤪
LibreOffice has joined the chat
tbh that took like 3 times longer to start the last time I used Windows (may have been 1-2 years ago lol)
Most FOSS I've used has at least one or two shortcomings as compared to their corporatized alternatives, but honest to god libreoffice is just straight up better than Microsoft office
When was the last time Microsoft did something good?
Serious question.
VS Code is well liked by developers.
Not to forget that it is good but not good. It's there to lock people into its marketplace.
modern .NET is awesome, mostly
I think they sometimes support open source. Isn't systemd in part developed by M$ people?
Azure is a looot of Linux.
there's also kernel maintainers who work at ms
Microsoft BOB was pretty tight
Well... i really, really liked Visual Basic 6, and Windows NT 4 also was an operating system that still has a special place in my heart...
Windows 2000 was pretty good.
The Microsoft keybords are pretty good!
I remember when doing things in excel using shortcuts did not lasted longed to move things on screen and one could save in a couple of seconds.
Try that shit now in the age of cloud backups and no shortcuts for new items.
The enshitification I likely at 40%. Can't way to find out the new ways copilot will fuck it up so I can be less productive.