So, a gas chamber? Back to 1938, are we?
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The method itself is not problematic.
I'd argue any method of killing a living being against their will is problematic...
What about imprisoning them against their will?
If they are danger to others, sure.
So it's okay to torture people if they're a danger to others, but not kill them?
If someone is eminent danger to others and there is no other option, it's ok to kill them to in my book. But no it's not ok to torture people at al. But I make a difference between torture and imprisonment: since I think prisoners deserve humane conditions and rehabilitation should be the goal, prison should not be like torture. If your prison is torture you doing it wrong.
What happens when people commit more crimes because the consequence of imprisonment is not enough of a deterrent?
They wont, we have pretty good data that rehabilitation is a rather good way to prevent recidivism. It helps if the society is in general build in a more social way. But sure there are some people who can't be reintegrated into society and have to be kept in hopefully humane way separated from society, we do the same with extrem forms of mental illness.
Murder is still murder, no matter if it's legalized.
And an execution is a premeditated murder in cold blood, even a systemic one. It's pretty much the worst kind of murder.
And yes, every kind of murder is problematic. Using gas chambers just gives it the correct appearance: state sponsored serial murder.
Do you struggle with context, hypotheticals, or both?
You seem to have no arguments for your opinion, otherwise why would you have to resort to personal attacks?
These kinds of comments are usually the internet equivalent of a white flag.
It isn't an opinion, though, you are simply failing to follow the conversation. I said "the method itself", which implies that I am comparing this method to other methods and NOT discussing whether or not capital punishment is ok.
And you are not getting the point. Every method of killing people is terrible and inhumane. There is no humane way of killing people, because the very act of killing people is inhumane.
The only humane method is one that doesn't kill or harm people.
What if they want to be killed?
Now this is getting ridiculous.
When it comes to mixed bag news this is as mixed as it gets. If we're gonna execute people, we can at least do it as humanely as possible.
Which this isn't, in my opinion. It's just nicer for the killer and the onlookers. But it's not a dignified death. If you're gonna kill people in the name of justice, let them stand up and shoot them.
If you can't stomach seeing or doing that, then maybe that should tell you something about the death penalty in general.
Yea but it's still better than the 'lets paralyze you so we feel humane and have your veins be lava for 12 hours as you disintegrate' evolved option we use.
I'm right there with you though, how the fuck is it that we don't just put people under like before surgery, and then cut off their access to oxygen? Or a quick gunshot, or a shot with that cattle killing gun? The whole thing is so fucking stupid to me
I'm against the death penalty personally, but the whole thing is so unbelievably absurd to me.
Also, obligatory ayyyy Alabama represent, we made BBC News again
how the fuck is it that we don’t just put people under like before surgery
You need meds for that, and a qualified anesthesiologist.
In November 2022, Alabama officials aborted his execution by lethal injection after struggling for hours to insert an intravenous line's needle in his body.
In Smith's second and final trip to the execution chamber on Thursday, executioners restrained him in a gurney and strapped a commercial industrial-safety respirator mask to his face. A canister of pure nitrogen was attached to the mask
This doesn't sound very professional!?
Someone else mentioned in another comment here that medical professionals can’t purposely kill someone because of their oath, so I’m guessing the people administering these execution methods are literally unqualified to do them.
I'd argue that a doctor would also be unqualified, since their entire qualification revolves around not killing people.
But yeah, one major problem with the death penalty is that it is carried out by people who have no education or training in that matter.
No one goes to school to learn the trade of an executioner.