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[–] emptiestplace@lemmy.ml 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The method itself is not problematic.

[–] squaresinger@feddit.de 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Murder is still murder, no matter if it's legalized.

And an execution is a premeditated murder in cold blood, even a systemic one. It's pretty much the worst kind of murder.

And yes, every kind of murder is problematic. Using gas chambers just gives it the correct appearance: state sponsored serial murder.

[–] emptiestplace@lemmy.ml 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Do you struggle with context, hypotheticals, or both?

[–] squaresinger@feddit.de 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You seem to have no arguments for your opinion, otherwise why would you have to resort to personal attacks?

These kinds of comments are usually the internet equivalent of a white flag.

[–] emptiestplace@lemmy.ml 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It isn't an opinion, though, you are simply failing to follow the conversation. I said "the method itself", which implies that I am comparing this method to other methods and NOT discussing whether or not capital punishment is ok.

[–] squaresinger@feddit.de 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

And you are not getting the point. Every method of killing people is terrible and inhumane. There is no humane way of killing people, because the very act of killing people is inhumane.

The only humane method is one that doesn't kill or harm people.

[–] emptiestplace@lemmy.ml 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

What if they want to be killed?

[–] squaresinger@feddit.de 0 points 7 months ago

Now this is getting ridiculous.

[–] shadeless@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'd argue any method of killing a living being against their will is problematic...

[–] maness300@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

What about imprisoning them against their will?

[–] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If they are danger to others, sure.

[–] maness300@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So it's okay to torture people if they're a danger to others, but not kill them?

[–] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If someone is eminent danger to others and there is no other option, it's ok to kill them to in my book. But no it's not ok to torture people at al. But I make a difference between torture and imprisonment: since I think prisoners deserve humane conditions and rehabilitation should be the goal, prison should not be like torture. If your prison is torture you doing it wrong.

[–] maness300@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

What happens when people commit more crimes because the consequence of imprisonment is not enough of a deterrent?

[–] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 0 points 7 months ago

They wont, we have pretty good data that rehabilitation is a rather good way to prevent recidivism. It helps if the society is in general build in a more social way. But sure there are some people who can't be reintegrated into society and have to be kept in hopefully humane way separated from society, we do the same with extrem forms of mental illness.