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I absolutely despise how common trans and lesbian porn is thats specifically designed for straight men (in many cases they will even subvert trans ppl to their disgusting fantasies by depecting them as "futa"). Even worse, there are truly disgusting people that will go out of their way to sexualize and objectify Asexual people.
I am not a porn category, I am not a fetish, I am not a "futa", and I am especially not someone who "just hasnt had good sex", I am a trans women and I am Asexual
Trans being fetishised is frightening. You're a person, not a sex toy, and you deserve respect. Sexual assaults against trans can start with fetishising the community and it's vile. I agree with you about male gaze lesbian porn... ridiculously long nails, rubbing the clip like you're trying to start a fire etc... it's not how we do it!
Ive even personally experienced it, there a man I have the misfortune of knowing who sees me as nothing but a sexual object >~<
Trans being fetishised is frightening
Why? Everything is fetishised, so why not trans persons? Actors have tonnes of fake porn shots out there, loads of people objectify the crap out of them, and it is all a fantasy.
There are LOADS of people out there with rape fantasies, look up CNC. That doesn't mean they want to be raped, it means they have fantasies.
Similarly, lots people have fantasies about trans persons. A lot of them, unfortunately, are the people who want to ban anyone from being LGBT (I guess these people are ashamed of themselves) and I think the world would be a lot better if people would kust open up a bit about their fantasies.
Human beings are weird and most of them are very sexual. I can understand that you don't like that, but you can't dictate what people like and not like
Actors have tonnes of fake porn shots out there, loads of people objectify the crap out of them, and it is all a fantasy.
does that make it acceptable for you? making a cum shot of an unknowing actor doesn't make it ethical for me AT ALL
That doesn't mean they want to be raped, it means they have fantasies.
didn't like >25% of that content on some porn platform get deleted because it wasn't consented
I think there's a difference between having a liking for something, and acting like every member of that group are oversexualized and are only for sex.
treat people like people, not sex toys.
To me a kink or interest is different to a fetish. Trans are a vulnerable group who are at increased risk of violence, suicide and other mistreatment. I work in the VAWAG and IME people with a trans fetish are often just dangerous. It's not a scenario based fantasy, its objectification and ive often found they start with fetishising and move onto violence.
Well to be the devil's advocate here...
Everyone and everything gets sexualized and not you not anybody can demand what goes on in other people's heads. You can sexualize me all you want and there is nothing I can do about that.
On the porn level, well, yeah... People make porn with trans actors, sometimes it's aimed at straight people and yes, it objectifies trans people, but then again. ALL porn objectifies everything, it's kind of the point. Porn is fantasy, escapism. It's really not that different from an action movie.
Rambo slaughters hundreds of people, and it's okay because it's a movie, a fantasy. All the actors involved are still alive and well. The same goes for the trans (or asexual) actors in porn videos. I think it's important to remember that this is just all fantasy and if you don't like it, please by all means, don't watch it. However, I think it's not right that you start demanding that "straight" men cannot watch trans porn if they want to. Unfortunately you don't get to decide what runs around in my head, just as I don't get to decide what runs around in your hear or what turns you on.
I think we should all tone it down a little. Just because someone likes trans porn doesn't make them disgusting.
Yes, trans people can be fetishised, just like straight men can be. You never saw porn where a straight guy gets lured and and then "raped but he likes it" by another man? If it's not your thing, fine, it's not my thing either but if you do like it, by all means, watch it and enjoy it.
Once you're done, you're back in the real world and there your interactions are different because we all (well most of us) know the difference between fantasy and reality.
Just for the record: I'm sure loads of people (men, women, and trans alike) have interacted with me whilst playing some porn scenarios about me in their heads, objectifying the crap out of me. That. Is. Fine. I won't judge others for their fantasies and desires as long as they don't objectify me, and behave in the real world.
Porn in theory I have zero issues with, sex work is work. My issue is the content and the fact it's not well regulated.
Content... there's so much choking, violence, verbal abuse and sexual assault/incest. What really concerns me is I've never seen a film where they discuss boundaries and safewords at the start. It takes under a minute! "I'm so horny! Just fyi I don't do ABC but love DEF. Safeword is pineapple. What about you?" Choking is a known danger flag in DA and its being normalised in porn with no safety net.
Then there's the type of sex. People are fetishised a lot ("exotic", trans etc) which is dangerous. Anal is everywhere, and IME a lot of young people think they HAVE to do it. So much porn is the man jack hammering away and I've NEVER known a woman that's liked that start to finish in sex. Shaved or at least styled vaginas are expected, and theres rarely condoms. What kind of ideas are young people getting about what's normal in sex?
The industry isn't well regulated. You regularly see videos where people look at best uncomfortable, and they're often really young. There's a lot of abuse in the industry and it's really not ok.
I do wonder, if it wasn't young women at risk, would there be more action?
On the anal subject, discovering bottoming (I'm a trans woman) was one of the best things to happen to me and I'm really shattered that I can't really do it anymore. I would hate for anyone to feel pressured into thinking they have to, definitely not for everyone, but I'm glad it's getting more normalized and is becoming less... fetishy and a bit stigmatized? I don't know, it can be hard to sort out how I feel about sexual things like this and how it differs from how other people may because of my gender identity. Having a prostate definitely makes it more pleasurable but it's still only part of the equation. Maybe I found it so much more fulfilling (ha) because I'm wired for being penetrated instead of penetrating? (Which ofc not necessarily a gender thing but it is generally related) I guess my rambly point is, I'm kind of glad it's being seen less as some extreme thing and more people might discover that they really enjoy it too.
I totally see your point and I'm glad it's helped. It's maybe helped gay men as well, there's less stigma against what they do
I don't do ABC but love DEF.
I spent entirely too long trying to figure out what those acronyms stood for. 🤦♀️
Airways, Breathing, Circulation and Diesel Exhaust Fluid
They love choking on exhaust foomes
I loooooovveee your username
Haha
it does seem like there are a lot of problems with sex work - it poses a lot of risks to women, and serves men while catering to clearly misogynistic fantasies ... it does make me think this is one of those topics I need to educate myself a lot more on. I got far enough to move past being sex-negative and sex-worker-exclusionary (radical) feminist (SWERF), I stand with sex workers and support them.
Staying focused on the well-being of women is important, and resorting to right-wing alliances and solutions like criminalization usually just hurt women more. The SWERF response of rationalizing women as somehow deserving the harm that comes to them seems like victim blaming and treats women as though they are never coerced and operate entirely independently of the social pressures applied to them that so often lead to becoming sex workers in the first place.
That said, I'm sure there are really educated and intelligent people focused on this exact problem who have much more nuanced and considered perspectives, so my impulse is to start there to inform my views. So I guess I feel I'm in a uncritical, pre-educated state on this topic, and in that case what is most likely to fill that void are uncritical thoughts and reactions, there is a lot of anger, misandry, victim-blaming, and feelings that are probably come from a reasonable place but go to unreasonable extremes. So probably I need to spend some time refining those views and rooting them in evidence and good reasoning.
Misogynistic fantasies is a really good way of putting it, they really are. What's interesting is looking into legal brothels, they're well maintained, staff and clients are treated well and nobody is at risk. As soon as something is underground it gets dangerous.
Criminalising sex work is bad for the reasons you said. Criminalising clients not providers is bad as well, cos clients are then unwilling to provide information for safety checks eg copy of passport. It's definitely something that research could shed light onto
Good post! But damn, having the start of a porno beginning with a discussion about safewords and boundaries would probably be severely off putting
Really depends on the genre and the watcher. I think for more kink focused stuff, having that included could definitely make it hotter sometimes, for me anyway. I don't know how good of a litmus I am for that, but there's probably at least some level of commonality there
The best thing you can do if you consume porn and can afford it is pay for things that are more in line with your morals and needs.
Last year, I had pinklabel, this year I have ersties. If I happen to go on pornhub, I only watch stuff from amateur couples that I know or that fit with my needs.
I'm gonna say it's easier since I'm gay and only watch lesbian porn and I can't watch straight men lesbian porn so it pushed me to find the actual good and ethical porn.
Good call...lord straight man lesbian porn a turn off. Have you tried audio porn as well? There's boyfriend/girlfriend AMSRs on soundgasm.
I tried but I often find it weird to be directly talked to in audio porn so I rarely use it.
Yep it's not everyone's cup of tea
I avoid this stuff like leprosy, I hate violent porn and anything with too much of the inside stuff on the outside (spit, piss, shit). One is usually just power fantasy and humiliation and that's such pathetic shit for weak men. The other is not only repulsive but actively dangerous to people's health.
I wouldn't be surprised to find it's only on the rise and so popular with the type of people who think Trump is making America great again.
Thanks Joke! Can you please take a look at the rules pinned at the top? We're women only and no politics 😊
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