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Even the self-described feminists celebrating the Supreme Court’s attempt to banish trans people from womanhood will pay a heavy price.

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[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The problem is more the idea that single sex spaces would be a thing at all, and that people would be able to use 'sex' to discriminate instead of using gender (which would automatically include trans people), not that the supreme court said that sex actually does mean sex - as far as I understand it, please explain to me if I'm wrong.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It's a major problem for Trans people, because the rule effectively bars someone by their superficial appearance from using the "sex appropriate" facility and then bars them by their birth identity from using their "sex presenting" facility. It is, in effect, a full exclusion of transgender people from any gender oriented facility.

But it becomes even more nefarious when employed maliciously against any cis-person who fails to present themselves sufficient to some arbitrary standard of masculinity/femininity. The end result is anyone who can conceivably be "clocked" as transgender - from tomboys to post-menopausal women - is now a potential target for harassment, detention, and legal sanction.

We are approaching a point of public policy at which you're effectively saying "Only Barbie can use the lady's room and only Ken can use the men's room".

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But this seems to be working within a system where single sex spaces exist and are used to discriminate. As a nonbinary person, I am very aware of how just the idea of having 'men's' and 'women's' rooms is already discriminatory, the court ruling didn't create that. It just said that where single sex spaces already exist, sex means sex. Presumably where single gender spaces exist, trans people would be included, and where gender neutral spaces exist, everyone is included. Gender neutral spaces should be what we're pushing for, not confusing the terms sex and gender to play into the already discriminatory system we have.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

It just said that where single sex spaces already exist, sex means sex.

There's no practical way to identify an individual's sex at a glance. Which creates de facto exclusion for people who present a gender contrary (or simply ambigiously) relative to their born sex.

If you look like a dude and you walk into a women's restroom, you're not going to be given the benefit of the doubt.

Gender neutral spaces should be what we’re pushing for

Broadly speaking. But it is a higher bar, precisely because the same misogynists and reactionaries who advocate for anti-Transgender activism and policy are regularly known for serial harassment of straight cis-people whenever the opportunity presents itself.

The problem is rooted in patriarchy and ethno-social supremacist attitudes. Transgenderism is a scapegoat for the abuses of people in power who abuse their authority at every opportunity.