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Stonehenge sprayed with paint by environmental protesters (www.dw.com)

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The prehistoric megalithic structure in England has been targeted by activists spraying orange powder paint, social media footage showed.

Environmental protesters sprayed paint on Stonehenge on Wednesday, with footage showing an orange powder covering some of the stones.

Two protesters dressed in white were seen running towards two of the megaliths, spraying paint, as another person attempted to stop them, in footage released by Just Stop Oil, an environmental activist group focused on the issue of human-caused climate change.

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[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 1 points 3 months ago (3 children)

yknow what fuck it, i support this. i was a little on the reactionary side back when they were throwing soup,

but after seeing hundreds of comments saying “just do if you want something done” and then seeing those same people turn around and say “but safely blocking streets in protest is an affront to my rights, stop being annoying”

…i get it now. it’s cornstarch and will wash off. calling for “optics” is just concern trolling. people are hearing about it. that’s the point. fuck oil. keep up the messaging. people are going to starve and drown and bleed from war caused by climate change. we are gonna survive a few people yeeting nonpermanent shit at public art.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

If it’s cornstarch that will wash off, then the headline is a lie and your quarrel is with whoever wrote that, not the people who believe the headline and believe stonehenge is getting actually defaced.

[–] qevlarr@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

True, but also there's the more general point about "I support the cause but not the method" naysayers being absolutely counterproductive. Climate protesters are finding themselves cut off from every method of protest, violent or not. Because lots of people want to continue business as usual in peace without those pesky tree huggers complaining about, y'know, the fact we're already well past the Paris 1.5 °C target with no end in sight

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

People have the right to do as they please, even if it means choosing a path toward their own demise.

People aren’t unaware of climate change. Everyone knows about it. What you’re seeing is a manifestation of the average human’s ranking of climate change in their own list of things to be concerned about.

You have no right to tell someone that climate change is more important than the things they choose to focus on instead.

If you think they’re mistaken about what’s on the table, like they underestimate the danger or something like that, then the right move is to inform them. All this protest activity is implicitly based on the assumption people just sort of … forgot about climate change.

They didn’t. They just don’t prioritize it over the other problems in their lives. Which is their right.

[–] n1ck_n4m3@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

On top of that, one of the biggest problems with climate change is that us as individual citizens have absolutely no control over it no matter how many people try and guilt us into taking action.

No amount of individuals recycling, driving less or with a more efficient vehicle or with an electric car, or drinking less water is going to change the fact that container ships, factories, manufacturing facilities, cruise ships, private jets, etc. belch more pollutants into the atmosphere by so many orders of magnitude that anything we can do as individuals is completely and utterly inconsequential in comparison.

Me recycling my plastic doesn't mean shit and it never will. Same with me driving an electric car vs. a gas powered car, hell even me driving a car with good fuel economy vs one that has bad fuel economy. Cargo shipping is responsible for more than 20% of the greenhouse gas emissions in the world while passenger automobiles are responsible for 5%-7% at most based on recent estimates. If every single person in the world stopped driving fossil-fuel powered cars and moved entirely to renewable fuel sources for their transportation, it would still be a drop in the bucket -- and that's never going to happen.

But the media keeps pointing the shotgun at everyday citizens like it's our fault that cruise ships belch shit into the atmosphere when we haven't been on a cruise in 10 years, or it's our fault that the shipping industry refuses to use more ecological and eco-friendly fuel sources.

Tell me more about how me as a single person recycling is gonna save the world, lol.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

my quarrel is with people who tell me what my real quarrel is thank you very much. edit: that includes status quo liberals telling activists how to fight for a livable future and you telling me who i am upset at.

i have no opinion on the headline or who believes it. please do not tell me what i believe.

[–] Zess@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's not even half as clever as you think it is.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 0 points 3 months ago

dude im not trying to be clever i just don’t like people telling me what i believe. do you?

[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It was coloured corn starch, and the stones have lichen growing on them that has helped them survive this long.

Nobody knows what the colouring agent was.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 0 points 3 months ago

If it causes lasting damages they will and should be prosecuted for exactly what happens. I’m hoping they did their due diligence but hey, if not that was dumb as hell of them and they should pay for it.

Again though, the sentiment remains that people are going to die. That damage is also irreparable and far less redeemable. I support this kind of action.

[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee -1 points 3 months ago

The people up in arms about the protests have never given a shit about the things the protesters “destroy”. It’s all just an optics game to make any dissenting opinion from the norm look batshit. Fuck the pieces of shit getting up in arms about this without knowing what’s up. Theyre the problem. They make the world worse every day they exist. They stop change. They allow for the atrocities to be committed.

[–] Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

... God damn it, people. This accomplishes nothing and just makes people angry at you, dipshits.

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Much like my witnessing PETA protestors screaming in the face of little children with a bullhorn because they happened to be waiting in line for the circus. I can support removing elephants from a life of circus performing, but I absolutely cannot stand PETA (for this and other reasons like euthanizing people's pets).

[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.de 0 points 3 months ago

Your PETA horror story didn't happen lmao

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah those people who built that place definitely screwed up the environment. This will show them. Let's dig up their graves and piss on them to show the world we mean business.

Or maybe let's not screw up historical sites and go after big business and the ones actually destroying the environment.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I hate it too. But you're hearing about it and its here on Lemmy. So its working. Idk if bad rep is what they want. They should be trashing the industry buildings and business headquarters of the most polluting companies. They're getting arrested anyway and at least then they'd look like Captain Planet.

[–] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They have spray painted those HQs as well, the news just doesn't cover it much. So far the only way to raise awerness has been to do stuff like this. Also they intentionally haven't damaged anything historic so this works with no issue, they know what they are doing.

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's like that internet law. The quickest way to the correct answer is to confidently assert an incorrect answer. Maybe the quickest way to getting noticed is whatever will entice the masses to "correct" your actions?

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 0 points 3 months ago

wait i love this theory and hate it so much it just might be correct

[–] dQw4w9WgXcQ@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I still subscribe to the theory that these people are hired actors from Big Oil. They are experts at being unlikable and naturally pushes me towards the opposing side. It sucks.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 0 points 3 months ago

genuinely i used to subscribe to the same theory

and then it switched. i think they’re here genuinely. not even sure what happened to change my mind. your mileage may vary? but i get where you are coming from.

[–] VelvetStorm@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Ffs just blow up a pipeline or sabotage parts of their infrastructure or follow the higher ups home and deface their homes.

[–] nialv7@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

And they did, literally destroyed a couple fuel pumps at two gas stations: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/apr/28/just-stop-oil-protesters-sabotage-petrol-pumps-on-m25-motorway

Did you hear about that on the news? Did you see this being posted on Lemmy?

Now you know why they have to do what they do.

[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.de 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

,they said, sitting at home, doing nothing.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Nothing is preferred than destroying cultural artifacts.

All this does is drive people away from the cause.

[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.de 0 points 3 months ago

None of the people clutching their pearls about this would have done anything anways.

[–] Gakomi@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I hate this kind of idiot shit, how do they think this will help their cause? Vandalising a fucking historical monument that does not affect in any way shape or form the environment will just hurt their cause!

[–] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee -1 points 3 months ago

A bunch of old ass rocks that you have to pay money to look at. I hope all that ancient ass shit goes away at some point and humans can look forward.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Congrats on your ancient druid curse.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 0 points 3 months ago

i feel like druids, if forced to pick a side, might be on the side favoring protecting nature :)

[–] StaySquared@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

So... they deface a wonder of the world? WTF did Stonehenge ever do to these weirdos?

[–] WindyRebel@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Big stone is increasing carbon into the air and it doesn’t care!

[–] StaySquared@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago

lol.

[–] ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 months ago

Brave and Important