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Some Republicans are starting to seriously regret Donald Trump’s vice presidential nominee, Ohio Senator J.D. Vance.

It’s been only one week since Vance was nominated at the Republican National Convention, and already his own party members are expressing severe doubts about Trump’s pick. The former president’s allies have acknowledged that nominating Vance was the product of Trump’s absolute certainty that he would be able to defeat Joe Biden in November. While Vance wouldn’t do much for swing voters or independents, he would likely shore up support among Trump’s base.

But ever since Biden passed the torch to Vice President Kamala Harris, the Democratic Party’s new presumptive nominee, Republicans have begun to sour on Vance.

“The road got a lot harder. He was the only pick that wasn’t the safe pick. And I think everyone has now realized that,” one House Republican told Axios Thursday, under the condition of anonymity.

Another House Republican told Axios that Vance “doesn’t add much.”

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[–] Sarothazrom@lemmy.world 136 points 3 months ago (13 children)

Really feels like Vance is being set up as the fall guy to blame when trump loses.

"If he had just picked someone else as VP, he would've won!" -conservatives in five months

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 68 points 3 months ago (4 children)

It's amusing you think Republicans will do anything but say the election was stolen by the left.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 29 points 3 months ago

Yeah, it's actually not possible for me to imagine Republicans losing the presidency again without claiming fraud. Even if saying that directly stops playing as well, they will just move onto softer language about it. Like when they went from being directly racist to claiming all problems are certain immigrants' fault.

They will "just ask questions" about particular states' results. I don't think we will come back from that. It may even bleed over to Democrats saying it eventually, just because it's so established in the zeitgeist that it's possible, some lesser thinking Dems may run with it.

Notice how none of them hesitate to do this shit now. It's because they've started to internalize that democracy is bad because it doesn't give their party the advantages they feel entitled to.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 23 points 3 months ago

They’ll do both

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago

They'll say both. Cognitive dissonance isn't a problem for Trump voters.

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Yea. There's a word for that. It's called losing.

[–] razorwiregoatlick@lemmy.world 37 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Vance brings no new votes to the table. He is really just there because Peter Thiel agreed to donate to the campaign if Trump made him VP. When Biden was still in, the GOP believed that the election was as good as won so they didn’t believe they need to appeal to anyone else. Now that Kamala is running, the initial reaction and polling is showing that this race isn’t going to be easy for the GOP and Vance looks like a shitty pick.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago

I must say that after many grueling and sometimes flat out boring and repetitive episodes, the USA show sure surprised us with this new twist.

I love it!

[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 29 points 3 months ago

And JD Vance has earned all the hate MAGA is going to send his way. Bending the knee may give short term gain, but it will ultimately ruin your life and legacy, like a whole list of these lifelong Republicans. The Lindsay Graham's and Ted Cruz's who took Trump's abuse and just cowered like the pathetic people they are.

MAGA will be in the history books beside the confederates as the traitor party.

[–] finley@lemm.ee 23 points 3 months ago

Bold of you to assume they’re ever going to admit having lost. How else will they rationalize another attempted coup?

[–] InternetUser2012@lemmy.today 18 points 3 months ago

He's a piece of shit so if they turn on him, (which we know they will) I'm good with it.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Really feels like Vance is being set up as the fall guy to blame when trump loses.

He was the bag man for Cryptobros. Trump puts him on the ticket and the money flows into the Trump campaign.

Now it's looking like a raw deal, as Trump has to spend all that new money defending his hideous little troll of a VP.

“If he had just picked someone else as VP, he would’ve won!” -conservatives in five months

Missed a perfectly good opportunity to run a horny VP like Kristi Noem or Laura Boebert or Hope Hicks.

Still would have lost, but at least we wouldn't need Vance's mug all over the TV.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

Maybe Trump will get them to hang him.

[–] Catma@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

No I think Trump and team figured they had this in the bag and no need to pick anyone else that could appeal to the normies. They are all in on MAGA and gods willing it explodes in their faves

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 13 points 3 months ago

When Trump loses, what's the worse that can happen to JD Vance?

It's not like Trump is going to send a mob to kill his vice president running mate. Oh wait.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 9 points 3 months ago

I hope mascara isn’t toxic to leopards!

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

As long as they lose I’m not sure I care who they blame it on.

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Blame everyone but Trump.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Don't worry, the qons will always find a cop-out. This is the bunch that were suddenly full of "independents" who never even heard of this W guy after Iraq was so obviously a gigantic clusterfuck and who never even heard of this Romney guy after he got spanked by a Blah guy.

No, these people were suddenly teabaggers that were deep into this "tea party" that never was a thing before being made a thing by Faux and friends. Also, don't call them "teabaggers", they never, ever used that term for themselves (and don't go looking around for any proof of this or anything. Just believe the teabaggers, er, I mean the "tea party members" of this so-called truth).