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edit: GUYS fuck stalin and fuck tankies, period. i understand that this community is more sensitive than most to pro-stalinist vibes, and i apologize for unintentionally twinging that nerve, but you need stop calling each other (and me) slurs

good heavens, happy new year, fuck incarceration and murder in all forms

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edit2: big thank u 2 da mods for helping with the slurs thing u guys rock ๐Ÿ˜Ž ๐Ÿ’•

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[โ€“] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The US has killed dozens of times that through social murder.

I'm not saying that Stalin wasn't an autocratic dickhead, but if you're gonna compare him unfavorably to present day US, number of own citizens killed is a bad choice of metric ๐Ÿคท

[โ€“] GBU_28@lemm.ee 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Are you suggesting the us gov killed at minimum 6*12 million of it's own citizens? 72 million? At the low end? You said "dozens" plural so 144million or more? Bullshit.

ACAB, injustice is alive and well, and extrajudicial killings are a serious serious issue in America, but your scales are just fantasy

[โ€“] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Ok, so maybe not dozens, but regulatory capture and other facets of the US system of laissez-faire for the already rich and powerful coupled with brutal oppression of those already hurting the most directly kills at LEAST a million people a year, maybe double that indirectly or as a major but not sole factor. Multiply that with 29 (the length of Stalin's reign) and you get a hell of a lot more than 6.

[โ€“] occhineri@feddit.de 0 points 10 months ago

I'm sure, in Stalin Union, nobody ever died because they were neglected by the regime. Dlso, most of the victims of US politics die abroad anyway, hence cannot be linked even indirectly to the US. As somebody else mentioned, there's no point in comparing deaths, it's just sadistic.