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    [–] Xephonian@retrolemmy.com -4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

    This 'encrypt' everything is such a waste of CPU and energy. Plus "oops, all your files are gone, tee hee." HTTPS everywhere is fucking stupid. More complexity for zero benefit.

    [–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    HTTPS isn't only about encryption; it's about talking to the right servers.

    [–] Xephonian@retrolemmy.com 0 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Great for my banking website.

    Not at all important my my IOT sensor network.

    Not EVERYTHING needs to be HTTPS

    [–] lud@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

    Don't use HTTPS on your IOT sensor network then.

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    Yes, everything needs to be https. https prevents tapering with traffic.

    [–] Xephonian@retrolemmy.com -1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    You think your data is secure with HTTPS? There's always an undisclosed vulnerability somewhere.

    Patches solve specific issues but they do nothing for overall security.

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    I don't think there is any vulnerability in https. There are know limitations but https itself is fine. If you are talking about TLS vulnerabilities then we have much more to worry about. To compromise the content on a page someone would have to brute force TLS very fast which isn't feasible with today's computer. Today's computer would take at least a few million years. But I have scene estimates that say long past the heat death of the universe.

    Even if https was full of holes it still would be better than http. Http has zero tamper protections or encryption. Companies like AT&T used to tamper with traffic to various purposes and it was feasible for them to do so.

    [–] Xephonian@retrolemmy.com -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    TLS 1.0 was released in 1999 as an upgrade from SSL 2.0 and 3.0.

    And these days we're on v1.3 - https://www.cloudflare.com/learning/ssl/why-use-tls-1.3/

    Notice anything? There's always a flaw. The general public hasn't discovered it in TLS1.3.....yet

    And again, Banking websites, some stuff makes a lot of sense to use encryption.

    Just not everywhere.

    [–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)
    [–] Xephonian@retrolemmy.com -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    Oh look, we've found a security 'researcher'. Mad that your job only consists of making other people's job harder?

    Try the DMV, that's also a great place to work where you can inflict misery on others.

    Valuable zero days aren't exposed. They're sold. If someone wants your data they will get it. HTTPS means nothing except huge amounts of wasted CPU cycles and energy.

    [–] probableprotogen@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    Nobody is forcing you to use HTTPS man

    [–] Xephonian@retrolemmy.com -1 points 4 months ago

    Move the goalposts some more. I never said forced.

    [–] doubletwist@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    You know how I know you don't know anything about security or computing?

    [–] Xephonian@retrolemmy.com -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    Because I have reasonable views about security drawbacks? That when I see a vulnerability, I also look at the whole situation and decide if that's an acceptable risk, rather than screaming "Security issue!" at the top of my lungs and pretending that patching this one vulnerability somehow makes a difference when there's always another found the next week??

    Security isn't free, it costs us by making it harder to get work done. "Security researchers" only know how to cover their ass. I can do that without their shrieking cries of wolf.

    [–] dditty@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    "Might as well not bother patching this actively-exploited security vulnerability, there'll just be another one in the future, " LMAO

    [–] Xephonian@retrolemmy.com -4 points 4 months ago

    You lack nuance in comprehension of complicated subjects. Are you a security researcher?

    [–] mlg@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

    Hey guys I found the dude who complained the github didn't come in EXE form lmao

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)
    [–] Xephonian@retrolemmy.com -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    You should triple encrypt your HD.

    Just to be sure.

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

    Once with a strong hash and random password is enough. (Assuming luks2)

    [–] Xephonian@retrolemmy.com -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    But what if..... there's a vulnerabilty....'spooky noises'

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 months ago

    Computers are always getting faster so it always necessary to stay well ahead of the curve. The big shift recently was the that the default hash switched to defend against massive GPU farms. The modern hash requires a lot more memory but as AI pushes memory to increase we are now potentially seeing machines that can break the hash. To my knowledge that is theoretical and would require a significant amount of hardware but never underestimate the budget of the government.