As much as I don't want it to happen, I'm convinced this was the final nail in the coffin for the democrats, and the Republicans will now be guaranteed the win.

Trump was shot and is now a martyr, and the democratic party is in shambles with no nominee. If they pick Kamala, who (after mistaking her for Trump) Biden claimed was not fit to be president, Trump will just beat her into the ground like he did with Hillary. If they pick anyone else, the American population won't know who they are. Either way, the democrats are at their most fragmented while the republicans are at their most united.

But then what do I know? I live on the other side of the planet.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If they pick Kamala, who (after mistaking her for Trump) Biden claimed was not fit to be president

That's funny. I remember him saying the opposite.

Trump will just beat her into the ground like he did with Hillary.

Hillary didn't lose because of Trump. She lost because she's Hillary. Since Kamala isn't Hillary, she won't have that problem.

[–] i_am_hiding@aussie.zone 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

That's funny. I remember him saying the opposite.

Am I mistaken? Just here in response to the question of whether Kamala would make a good president, he says "Look, I wouldn't have picked vice president Trump [Kamala] to be vice president. I think she's not qualified to be president. Let's start there."

Hillary didn't lose because of Trump. She lost because she's Hillary.

You may have a point there, I'll grant you, but I'm still not sure Kamala can come out on top. I'd very much like to be proven wrong, but we might have to wait for the next debate to gauge what direction we're heading in.

[–] boogetyboo@aussie.zone 12 points 1 month ago

His stumbling over the sentence cadence made him accidentally say the opposite. He meant to say that he wouldn't have picked her for VP if she wasn't qualified for president - think about it, that that's a far more normal thing for him to have said and I'm positive what he meant. He just tripped over the words.

[–] themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

I'd like the USA to not elect the fascists, but that's asking america to vote a black woman as president and we know that shit is not happening, sadly.

[–] CylustheVirus@beehaw.org 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nah. Nobody loved Biden. He was always "not Trump" primarily, and now we know how bad Trump 2 would be.

Anybody else would fill that role just as well. Personally I'd vote for a ham sandwich over Trump.

[–] i_am_hiding@aussie.zone 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yes, but you're still just picking the lesser of two evils.

Would it be so much to ask for to have a candidate who's only redeeming quality is not that they're less shit than the opposition? The ham sandwich is less shit than Trump, but it's still not good. I'm not convinced the democratic party will be able to find someone brilliant in their own right to run for president. They'll only be able to put in someone who isn't Trump.