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Couple of issues I'm wondering about...
First, wouldn't clicking on everything just make you easier to track?
Second, how much bandwidth would all this use?
the way it works is sending an HTTP request that registers as a "click" to the advertiser (thus costing them money), but then doesn't actually let the browser download any content and fetch the webpage, basically pi-holes the destination site and any attached tracking cookies. Combined with the fact that it does this to every ad, it would basically poison any click tracking.
edit: pedants
and before I get any more of you, this is just what I remember reading about adnauseam, do not take it as gospel, go look at AdNauseam's FAQ.
Ah great
Uh, wait a minute. π€
Sending a request also uses bandwidth, you know.
A basic GET request, even with a long querystring, will be negligible even on a 1998 dial-up connection.
Right, but thousands of them, possibly every day? Could perhaps affect your data consumption on your phone e.g. π€·ββοΈ
Edit: I got it guys, thanks.
I don't know of any data plan that limits on the upload. Caps are usually on the download side, and TFA says it does not download the server response.
You aren't terribly familiar with how much traffic we generate nowadays... are you? If we were still on 2G and isdn / dsl sure. You'd likely see a slight latency jump. On anything from this last decade+ ? Not a chance.
I'm not, am I. I hadn't done any calculations regarding this. It was strictly hypothetical, as you can probably tell from the question mark and π€·ββοΈ. π
I'll be honest - you weren't really presenting your case in that way. Understand my confusion: you seemed pretty adamant about your concern with no backing data on it. Most people pick their hills with something to back them.
It's not really a hill for me to begin with lol.
That's kind of my point - just based on the reception it's clear that a number of people were perceiving that as one. Normally that's the "pump the brakes" or the "hol up ποΈποΈ" moment where you clarify.
Gotcha. ππ
Okay, fine, not enough to matter. Are you satisfied with that?
Jesus, you got defensive quick and hard. Sorry I rustled you.
https://lemmy.world/comment/16187642
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lol
furthermore: lmao.
you've got to try a lot harder to "rustle" me, but I like your moxie for thinking you did, sport
doing the math, even the cheapest phone plans that don't explicitly exclude data, nowadays include at least 1GB of data for free. Usually more. Almost any reachable amount of outbound requests to click on ads would barely put a dent in your data allowance.
Now the name calling. Cool, dude.
I'll concede the data plan dent thing; I hadn't done any math regarding that. Thanks for clarifying that to me and everyone else!
But you did say "none" so I just pointed out the fact that it's not none. It's some. I wasn't wrong to point that out. No matter how much of a stickler you find me for that.
But that's no reason to post images implicitly depicting me to be some kind of fat nerd.
You're a rude person. Autistic or not.
I accept your concession, better luck next time.
pedantry is pedantry, if you interject with "well ACKSHUALLY" over literally a couple kilobytes of data in this, the Year Of Our Lord 2025 where common storage device sizes are in the multiple terabyte range, and 100mbps down/10 up is exceedingly common, expect to be called one. It is functionally none, because it is not 1993.
can't even come up with your own insult for me, just gonna steal that sad attempt at bait from the other guy? how... underwhelming, must do better. π€‘
Huh?
K.
Those are your words, not mine. π
I was talking about data sent over a network, not stored on disk. π€·ββοΈ
My god. I'm not "out to get you" here, this isn't Reddit, will you fucking relax, dude? I thought you said that you were autistic? Maybe I misinterpreted you. Maybe it was someone else.
All good now? Ready to drop the insults? β€οΈ
You definitely seem rustled.
if you say so, whatever makes you happy.
That HTTP request would also show up in the advertisers web logs with your origin IP address.
I think we're far past caring about a website logging an IP address.
I'm past caring about giving my IP to a website that I want to use, but what this is doing is handing out your information to every single advertiser that is published on any page you visit. In some cases this plugin would match the definition of "leaking personal data".
You do you though. I won't stop you.
Most people dont have static IPs. All the ads would see is web requests from random residential ips from a certain country.
When was the last time you checked the length of your DHCP lease?
Every 10,000 miles. Or after you hit 40. Before putting it on?
Shit. I know this one... uh...
I don't know about NZ (or wherever you are), but IP addresses for residential access in the US don't really change all that much. It's... concerning.
I thought the average was 7 days for a residential IP and when I searched it up it seemed like the average was 3 days. However I took note of my ip and its still the same as it was 6 days ago. Im now interested to see how long these ips are being leased out for.
If it is longer than a week then I am fully wrong and spamming out your ip is a huge privacy risk.
With most fixed residential users having their modems on 24/7, thereβs more incentive to simply keep renewing the lease. Why would you risk potential service disruption to your clients?
so use a VPN? if you're the sort of user using AdNauseam, and is concerned about tracking, you're probably also the sort of user who already uses a VPN.
I'm behind SEVEN proxies!
What are they going to do? blacklist me and stop serving me ads?
Oh no
If you care about your information and privacy, why are you giving them your information for nothing?
You do have a point, but... It's not for nothing. It's to hurt the predatory ad industry. And what you give up isn't much: your IP address and likely the referral (so they know you visited website X that was serving their ad). It's up to you to decide whether that's an acceptable privacy cost to conduct this kind of guerilla ad warfare.
It would be cool if it could somehow integrate to a VPN and only do that while the VPN is active. I don't think it's possible, though.
edit: Just found out from their FAQ:
Potentially possible, but I agree, likely not worth the effort.
Also wouldn't this be directing a ton of money to google? (or I guess any other ad provider)
The advertisers are paying for the opportunity either way. Clicks cost them more money than just displaying the ad. Useless clicks cost them money for nothing.
The advertisers could be paying based on interactions and/or their rates could be negotiated around interaction, so unless a sizeable number of people use this it would be giving money to Goog
No, because it devalues their click through, as no sales will result from those clicks.
It's kinda like printing money, there's more of it, but the overall value hasn't increased.
In the short term, I would think so.
In the long run, it makes it less appealing for companies to advertise, because they would have larger costs while having less sales. That, in return, hurts Google as advertisers don't want to pay as much anymore. If 80% of all users used this extension, advertisers would have to pay more than ever, while having only 20% of all users can be reached (simplified, of course).
Or in short, it's designed to hurt the system as a whole, not specific companies.